Ah yes, I remember seeing that one. Thanks.
1 Like
The Z-Wave Alliance seemed to respond positively to virtual IPv6 addresses to help bring Matter to Z-Wave devices, but I don’t know how much influence they really have with SmartThings development.
JB: It is my understanding that Z-Wave devices can coexist with Matter when a Z-Wave hub manufacturer implements the ability to assign Matter-compatible, virtual IPv6 addresses to each Z-Wave device connected to the hub. I expect that Samsung/SmartThings, as a prominent member of the CSA, will certainly be doing this. I’m very interested in what you are hearing from other hub manufacturers about their plans for implementing Matter-compatible, virtual IPv6 addressing in their hubs.
MK: Matter requires a border router or bridge to connect a Thread device to a Wi-Fi device, and we will similarly see bridges into Z-Wave on Matter. How this bridging will be deployed will depend on the manufacturers. Bridging may be deployed on a gateway, an edge device, or in the cloud. All options will be available as the various working groups establish the necessary APIs and requisite roadmaps for the future.
A Z-Wave-to-Matter bridge solution will ensure that all existing and future Z-Wave devices are interoperable with future Matter devices; in fact, the success of Matter will be dependent on the successful integration of Z-Wave and other existing platforms being included in the Matter deployment to ensure no products or systems go “dark.” At Z-Wave Alliance, we see Matter as a benefit to the marketplace and have exciting things coming to Z-Wave this year both in new-generation silicon and hardware security and bridging and software building blocks.”
1 Like
Did we???!
I’ve read your stuff on Twitter, and I find it really disappointing.
All in all is like listening to a political campaign talk. Bold promises without real meanings.
Everyone who is working on Matter has made recently a few announcements, like Google did about a week ago.
And if you read between the lines, it doesn’t mean anything.
Nobody has a solid product, nobody shows a plan how it will be implemented, nobody told which devices will be the first ones, etc. All is just PR stuff without any meaning and fine prints.
And the Routine Creator… This name is amazing. Nobody has any fantasy there? It is like the SmartThings Labs. Re-cycle all the phrases what is possible, and then trademark it as well.
Routines->Automations->Automation Creator->Rules API->Routine Creator
The best comment what I saw about this whole nonsense was from a user asking will you be able to turn off all of these trackings from your fridges and TVs if you want to have a dumbhome.
Products will come after the specification is completed, but Apple has put out a ton of details on how Matter will be integrated with HomeKit, and Eve has already converted their Bluetooth devices to Thread. Philips Hue has also said they will be ready. So there is some real work being done.
.
Google has also put out some real details, including preview builds of their new developer tools. And the commitment that Nest thermostats will work with Matter.
Google Home Developer Center | Google Home Developers
So some companies have done more than just say “Matter support is coming.” But Amazon and SmartThings are still light on details for now.
1 Like
Google hasn’t even put nest protects in the home app. I don’t trust them to do anything.
2 Likes
@JDRoberts some companies are leaders, and some are followers.
1 Like
When a topic pops up like this about a Samsung 2021 device, then I think they have nothing yet…
2 Likes
I want to see how the Home/Away status will be passed between systems, or any presence information.
1 Like
Here’s my article with all the details from SDC
4 Likes
Nice write up, even if the news itself is disappointing. As I’ve posted before, I had high hopes that Samsung was going to position smartthings as the android alternative to Apple for multi brand matter operations, but that won’t happen on this path.
Thanks!
It’s a real mixed bag. Fake hubs in TVs and fridges and no Matter bridge support certainly sucks. But for the average consumer that doesn’t know what a smart home hub is and buys a cheap wifi light bulb off Amazon and happens to own a 2022+ Samsung TV, things will potentially work well.
There’s some real potential for most of us here that already own a SmartThings Hub: Matter support in ST Edge, incoming Routine Creator beta for complex automations, a few more local Rules API conditions incoming.
2 Likes
One of the most annoying things to me is that this means that most HomeKit certified devices will work in the smartthings app but smartthings devices won’t work in the HomeKit app, and you know which company the typical consumer is going to blame for that. 
Plus trying to explain what’s going on in this forum will not be fun.
1 Like
Great write-up. Thanks for sharing. I’m curious to see what comes of the Routine Creator. Still holding on to WebCoRe (admittedly too lazy to come up with another solution). Curious to see if it will be comparable or if it will just be an extremely lightweight version.
1 Like