Resetting Z-Wave

[dheinisch (Dor Heinisch)]

Hi @JDRoberts, thanks for the fast response.
So i have a fibaro roller shutter 3 which i paired once with edge driver, though i removed it a while ago (before the factory reset)…

Anyway now everything seems to play fine, even though some of the routes still contain unknown devices…

A bit worried to run ZWave repair (since things are playing ATM…) though i have a feeling it wont last long…

I’d expect factory reset remove all

[jkp]

@dheinisch

Anyway now everything seems to play fine, even though some of the routes still contain unknown devices…

Devices with Edge Drivers will show as Unknown Device in routing info for Devices using Device handlers

FAQ: Why does the IDE list “placeholder” for my device? Can I change that?

non-technical answer: the IDE is part of the old groovy based architecture. It will be going away and be replaced with something else. in the meantime, anything which is using the new architecture will be represented in the IDE with “placeholder“ under the device type column. This includes devices using an Edge Driver. Since new edge drivers are being added overtime, it may even be that a device which is the same model number as a device you previously added which used a groovy DTH is now using an Edge driver and so shows up as placeholder. Don’t change it! Once the device is using an integration from the new architecture, you can no longer get to its code details through the IDE, And changing it to a different device type may break the integration altogether. If you need to cha…

go ahead and run z-wave repair if you want

[dheinisch (Dor Heinisch)]

Should I risk it? lol

Just to mention - currently i have no devices using edge drivers… so its weird

[jkp]

If you have no devices in IDE with Placeholder for any of your z-wave devices probably a good idea to run z-wave repair. Possible you have a ghost device.

FAQ: How to remove ghost devices from your z-wave and zigbee networks

Sometimes after doing a Z-Wave repair you’ll notice error messages on your logs from unknown devices which only have a device id or when you’re looking at the device routing table you’ll notice an Unknown Device listed. These are ghost device, i.e. devices that are no longer paired with the SmartThings hub and not recognized but still remain in the network routing tables. The problem with ghost devices is that they can create issues with the mesh, unresponsive devices, slow communication, delays and other issues. NOTE: Starting firmware 37.x the hub should automatically detect and remove ghost devices. You can use this wiki to search and remove any left over ghost devices. There are two way to identify ghost devices, either by looking at the routing table for the device (which shows on…

[dheinisch (Dor Heinisch)]

I have some devices with placeholder in ide, though these are wifi devices (sensibo and stuff), not zwave devices…

As i stated before, last repair broke everything and i could only fix it by reset to factory settings and pair all devices all over again… this is why im so concerned with that repair…

Anyway, i’ll wait to see if something breaks again and try repair…

10x

[dheinisch (Dor Heinisch)]

@JDRoberts BTW - why didnt the factory reset remove the routing table? Or did it? If thats the case how come ghost devices appeared again (similar ids…)

I’m worried that routing table wasn’t truncated after factory reset or maybe i did something wrong during the process…

[JDRoberts]

@dheinisch

@JDRoberts BTW - why didnt the factory reset remove the routing table? Or did it? If thats the case how come ghost devices appeared again (similar ids…)

I’m worried that routing table wasn’t truncated after factory reset or maybe i did something wrong during the process…

I’m sorry, I’m confused. Factory resetting the hub should clear the network table in the hub, yes.

The IDs for the zwave devices are assigned as each is added to the Network. They do get reused eventually if you go through the whole 232.

If you add them in the same order as the first time, then they will get the same IDs.

“Similar“ IDs rather than “identical“ IDs wouldn’t really mean anything.