Here is the first App for this. I have compiled the obvious pool / pool&spa / spa configurations into the first “high-level” app for the remote switches of a PE653 device-type. Will work on the device-type for PE653 soon. This should give everyone access to the 5 buried switches inside. Create the app and device-type via copy and paste into a new app and device-type from “Code” Once you create the app and the device-type then install the app and select your current PE “Thing” on the first page and your configuration from the drop down list on the second page, then select which of the various elements you would like to have switches created for - they are a bit more than just Virtual Tiles as you will see how they perform. You can find both here:
Please provide feedback especially about the configurations - I believe I have covered all iterations that are not “completely” custom installations. It will also automatically give each of the “switches” the correct corresponding label. Special Icons for each to come soon.
WOW! Going to try the smart app now. In response to your prior earlier question about special configurations, I think most (if not everyone) has either one of the two you specified being either the pump connected to switch 1 (on/off) or a VS pump.
To give you insight into my configuration, my heater is actually triggered when the temperature on the heater is greater than the temperature of the pool. For instance, if I am to use the remote and I would set my pool temperature to 85, the heater would only activate when: (i) there is enough flow through the VS pump to turn on the heater and; (ii) if the water temperature in the pool was below 85. Therefore I (like most with a VS pump) do not have a dedicated on/off switch for the heater.
Justin - I hear what you are saying but I assume your heater is still “hooked up” to your PE653 - you may not actually “turn it on/off” but I do believe that it is still plugged in to SW5… Assuming that is true you should see the “heater” switch come on and off automatically when it is running… (at least that is what the documentation from Intermatic alludes to be true)
These are just the first steps in making sure all the fundamentals are solid - you (nor others) may not ever “use” the switch (it is optional in the app) however, it might be useful as a trigger for something else in ST - like logging the hours it is on/off or triggering something else in the backyard - like a water feature ?? Might also use it as an override if you do not want the heater to run during the day or night… That will be a little tricky as it will likely get automatically turned back on by the PE configuration if set to 85 and the pool lowers in temp but the battle between the PE and the ST hub will not be every second - it will be as often as the PE samples the temp and determines the “heater” needs to be turned on… The ST hub can easily accommodate shutting it off regularly if an override is desired… It could also work the other way - say you set the PE at 80 for round-the-clock temp and then use the ST app based on presence or something else to boost it to say 85 when you are home… That could even have a timeout on it so if you are gone from the house for more than 48 hours it could automatically go into cost savings mode and either be triggered by you before you return or automatically when you return based on presence…
Food for thought… Smarter pool might just pay for your ST hub in less than a year…
Can someone please tell me what the PE653 shows up as when you “pair” it to the ST hub? And can someone also go into their ST Devices and get me the “Raw Description” and the “Data” fields for your PE device… Data might be blank but the Raw Description should have something like this:
Thanks! This way I can fingerPrint the device-type so that it will automatically come up and launch the correctly after “pairing”
I also have a Z-Wave code “Decoder” app that I would like someone to “Guinea Pig” for me - it will be a “temporary” replacement for your PE device-type and used to “Log” all of the various commands that are sent/received while using the PE remote to drive all of the features - i.e. setTemp (both pool and spa), setVariableSpeeds, Pump High, Pump Low, POOL/SPA, FreezeTemp (EmergencyTemp), and each of the individual switches…
Justin - This is great and thank you! So from the data that you have provided I have been able to determine a few exciting pieces of info regards data/settings available from z-wave:
1.) We will be able to set the thermostat
2.) There is definitely the temp data available (and potentially more)
3.) There is power level available - meaning the Variable Speed Pump should be able to be read and configured
4.) The clock data is available so we can check / update it as daylight savings changes
5.) There is an “all on and all off” feature that can be utilized for maintenance
There is a variety of other data / set points available that we will have to determine the usefulness and applicability of. If you are still willing I will send you the “testing device type” that should be able to glean some additional information.
Hi, I want to get up to speed with this and also beta test. I have PE653/PE953 and a Intelliflo VSP pump. Can someone help me with pairing to installing device and smartapps. All very appreciated.
Hello,
I am trying to pair my PE653 to the network using a minimote. I press the include button on the minimote, the blue light blinks on the minimote. I then press the tiny button next to the “Include” led on the PE653 inside the door. The “include” led blinks briefly. Minimote still blink blue slowly. Tried pressing the button on PE653 several times. Nothing changes. Can anyone help?
I don’t have the minimize, but I have been led to believe on other forums that the only remote compatible with the PE653 is the PE953. That’s why we are all discussing the creation of a device type because even that remote is not the greatest.
I’ve got no issues with the remote itself. It seems practical for the job locally. My interest is having the ST control is to provide one central hub for all devices. We live in a place with lots of residents with second homes so for a lot of our clients in the pool business, they wanted remote control of their systems so that they could, for example, pre-heat pools or spas to have things heated before they get to town. And just to keep tabs on things while they are gone.
Justin, can you tell me how you paired the PE653 with ST hub? I tried paring it using a minmote without success. I was able to pair any aeon labs devices with the minimote.
This is a bit of a long process. First you have to exclude the ‘mini-mote’ from the PE653. As I don’t have (and don’t know) what the mini-mote is, I can’t help you there. But once you get it excluded you can rock and roll (sort of).
At the top of this thread @bigpunk6 created a device type for the PE653 (which probably won’t be as cool as the one being worked on by @cooperglee). You need to add this device type to your ST hub by following his instructions.
Once the device type is added go to your PE653 and hit the include button on the device. If you don’t know where (or what) that it… consult the instruction manual which I believe is also posted in this thread.
ST will discover the device. At that point go back into your ST IDE and tell ST that this ‘newly discovered device’ is the PE653 you created from @bigpunk6.
The result is you will have device with 5 switches and a temperature sensor.
@cooperglee I can tell you that I have installed the virtual-switch app and it works perfectly. I have played with the options to taylor them to how I would like to use the app.
I think I can confirm the heater comes on at SW5 but it is not toggled with an on/off switch like you would think. It seems the heater runs like an A/C unit meaning it is always in a state of ready. If the temperature is set to a level greater than the temperature of the water the heater activates to raise the temperature of the water much like an A/C Unit would work to cool your house.
The only thing I could really do is test your device (and I know others to this thread want to test it as well).
(at least that is what the documentation from Intermatic alludes to be true)