When I hear hub backup I’m assuming my hub can be backed up and restored. I think that’s closer to the “hub replace” feature. It’s not a complete backup that I can restore from scratch but closer.
This sounds like it’s a “fallback” or secondary hub functionality.
To make things more interesting is there a difference between a “backup hub” and “hub backup”? Do both apply to SmartThings?
Something to think about the terminology. @Nathan_Sterner
@RBoy My “Backup hub” is sitting in the drawer, as my active hub does not have “hub backup”.
This would likely be the event that would push me over to Homey Pro. I am currently controlling all of my ST hub devices via a Homey Community App called SmartThings2. It uses a SmartThings personal access token to access devices on my ST account. This allows me to play with Homey flows without the need to migrate all of my devices and routines. Here is a link to the video I created concerning the setup process, if interested.
Homey is constantly expanding its device compatibility list so I now have only a few devices that would not work with Homey Pro hub. The greatest quantity of incompatible devices are older SmartThings sensors. How ironic is that?
Here is a response from a ST Staff member concerning questions I had about the hub backup feature… https://community.smartthings.com/t/follow-up-on-questions-from-the-hub-backup-feature-post/290633?u=bud_m
Unfortunately, that post is marked “Private” and is not viewable. Was it perhaps a DM?
What is very confusing is why numerous devices (20, to 30 devices) keep going offline after updates, yet ST says everything is working fine and gives no explanation. Yet this is happening to others too so clearly something is going on that ST is keeping secret.
My bad. Here is the reply…
Hi Bud, you had a couple questions on the automatic hub backup feature post that we wanted to reach out to you about. You have a couple of options depending on whether you have Z-Wave devices, which I assume you do have. We hope this helps:
If you have Z-Wave devices and want to migrate off of V2, and you have too many devices to work with the V3 because it has less memory, then you would need to have two V3 hubs with your devices split between them. In this configuration, you will not be able to have the V3 hubs in a hub group or use the hub backup feature (but those hubs would still back up to the cloud automatically and be eligible for the hub replace feature).
If you do not have Z-Wave devices, then you should be able to transfer all devices to a SmartThings station, and your ST Station and V3 hubs could be in a hub group together, but the devices would not be able to all transfer to your V3 backup hub, due to its reduced memory, in the even that your primary ST Station goes offline. ST Station memory for drivers is effectively the same or similar to V2. Alternatively, two ST Stations in a hub group should give you support for all the new hub group features, except Z-Wave.
Homey Pro looks pretty good but expensive.
Is there a list of supported devices somewhere? Their website is very pretty but short on technical details.
The best way to check if a device is supported by Homey is check the App Store
Homey? As in LG Homey? Lol
Wow! No mention of that on the Homey website…
Yep, LG Homey—now with extra corporate seasoning! If they play their cards like Samsung did with SmartThings, we might be in for another “whoops, there goes compatibility” saga. I’m guessing that’s what you’re hinting at?