I have been trying to get the “Goodbye” and “I’m Back” routines to work. Eventually I got it but there’s something here that makes no sense to me. First thing I did was to edit the settings for “Goodbye!” by clicking on the gear-icon in the Automation dialog. [image] Then, I see that there’s TWO…

[image] marktheknife: there are actually very good reasons to have “modes” that have nothing to do with the alarm “state” of SHM. There’re many reasons why location modes are different than SHM modes, but none of them is particularly good one.

The FAQ problem explains all, but lemme try: SHM “mode” should never be called “mode”. I don’t even like calling it “SHM State”, since “state” could imply knowing whether or not an undismissed alarm currently exists. So I call it “SHM Armed Status”. SHM Armed Status is supposed to only be used by…

If i Lock/Arme my home with SHM. I want to trigger Away routine (turn off light and radiator). Using the SHM Arme on the dashbord there is no option to select a routine. Or is ther a smarter way?

[image] Otte: Or is ther a smarter way? Use a Routine… A Routine can both set SHM and Mode. Routines can be executed pretty easily from the Automation/Routine page, Android Widget, or real or virtual Switch.

Other way around. You run a routine to arm SHM and perform those other actions you want to do.

And if you use a routine, you can set it up as a widget which can be even faster to get to than the SmartThings mobile app dashboard. :sunglasses: [image] Is there a SmartThings widget? After installing the SmartThings app and setting up an account, you can add a SmartThings widget to you…

There may very well be good reasons for the notion of “modes” and “SHM” where each is distinct from the other. Thank you guys for taking the time to explain it ! :smile: But here’s the thing… if this is hard to grasp for people that will bother to find the SmartThings forum, people who might even …

[image] angelotrivelli: The language for this stuff needs to be better and there needs to be more clear cues within the app itself. That said, its a very difficult thing to do. I’m tempted to spin off another Topic to express support for and discuss this challenge, because I totally agree, ye…

[image] angelotrivelli: But here’s the thing… if this is hard to grasp for people that will bother to find the SmartThings forum, people who might even know that “groovy” is something other than an adjective to describe 70’s furniture, there is NO CHANCE in hell that “Joe Public” is going to und…

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marktheknife (Mark) June 13, 2017, 6:25pm 2

You’re right, the terms can be confusing and very unintuitive for new users. but there are actually very good reasons to have “modes” that have nothing to do with the alarm “state” of SHM. See the linked topic below.

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