Master io from Simon 100 Edge Driver Needed

Hi @JohanW

I need to know more information about the device, number of buttons and what actions it supports, pressed, pressed 2 times, …

It would be good if you paired it with zwave thing Mc to see what endpoints and command class it uses

Hi Mariano,

I have now paired it with the Z-wave thing Mc, see attached pictures. Is this the correct info needed?


Hi,

I need this info too

This company has a whole bunch of nearly identical, looking devices with nearly identical names, and it doesn’t make it easy to find the individual model numbers.

I got off track about which model it was, so I’m going to delete several of my posts in this thread.

My apologies for any confusion, but the research on this one has been confusing. :thinking:

I found an installer sheet for the device.

It indicates that there is a long press option, which is used for network functions like inclusion and exclusion.

I don’t see any double press options.

There seem to be two models in zwave alliance:

  • S100 Switch IO: only on-off switch. ProductType 0x0001
  • S100 Master Rocker for Dimmer: On-Off and dimmer by sliding laterally. ProductType 0x0007 and 0x0008

I can’t find any ProductType 0x0002 in zwave alliance.

@JohanW could you say which of the two models it is?

It seems that the device itself has the code to communicate with the associated device and obtain its current state (basic_get) before sending the command to the associated device (basic_set)

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Hi Mariano,

Then its this product:

  • S100 Switch IO: only on-off switch. ProductType 0x0001

Products name is β€œSimon IO Master switch”. To my knowledge the only functionality is to press it to trigger any scene. In the old platform I used the β€œZ-wave button DTH”.

(if you hold it down for 10 seconds +, it triggers a factory reset)

(The dimmers in the series have a touch-dimmer-slide functionality. But this is not the dimmer device)

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That’s good news! :sunglasses:

That model is, indeed, a button.

https://products.z-wavealliance.org/products/3769/embedpics

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https://www.simonelectric.com/intl/10000322-039-electronic-push-button-switch-io-simon-100.html

That model normally does not have the word β€œmaster” in its name, though: Simon Electric usually uses β€œmasterβ€œ for the group/scene controllers.

Hi,
its not that product, its this product

Master rocker push-button switch Simon iO matt white Simon 100 | SIMON (simonelectric.com)

And the mechanic complementary product mounted in the wall is this:
IO Master Simon 100 | SIMON (simonelectric.com)

Sorry, seems like i double-posted my reply!

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Ok, in that case we’re back to β€œnot a button, it’s a wall controller.” (Which is consistent with the way that Simon electrics uses the word β€œmaster.” ) And again that it’s using proprietary code.

See the installation manual from the manufacturer’s site that you linked to:

https://www.simonelectric.com/intl/10002035-230-master-rocker-push-button-switch-io-matt-white-simon-100.html

Yes, thats the same one! Then its a scene controller

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So how did you use it with DTH?

Did you create routines with one button pressed to turn on and off, sending the action to change state?

Did you use direct association with devices?

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If I remember correctly it was like this:

After it was parired in, I changed the DTH to β€œZ-wave button”, the standard DTH in the IDE).
Then it appeared options to use single press, double press, triple press. However, it was only possible to use the β€œsingle press”.

So the setup of the automation (routine) was like this:

β€œWhen pressed, run scene X”

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Added to this driver version

─────────────────────────────────────────────────── 
 Name         Z-Wave Button Mc
 Version      2023-10-06T20:19:55.561874516        
───────────────────────────────────────────────────
- id: Simon/S100 Switch IO
    deviceLabel: Simon S100 Switch IO
    manufacturerId: 0x0267
    productType: 0x0002
    productId: 0x0000
    deviceProfileName: button-no-battery
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Hi Mariano and JDRoberts, thanks a lot for your help, much appreciated!
So that means I can try it out and see if it works?

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Today I came back home from vacation and tried it out, worked perfect, thanks a lot!

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Hi Mariano!

This works perfect on the master switches, except for one device. I paired it out and re-paired it to ST and got the same issue as before, but there is probably a reason. It looks like it might be another firmware on this one, could that be the problem?
I used the Z-wave mc thing on it, see below

@JohanW @JDRoberts

In this case the product ID is correct.

The problem is that the product Type is different.

It’s a button like the previous one added, right?

Then I will add it to Zwave Button Mc, now I can’t

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Yes, Its exactly the same product as the one before (above), thats why I got confused that it did not work similar to the others.

Is it possible to add it this one too, to the same Z-wave button MC edge driver?

Added to this driver version

─────────────────────────────────────────────────── 
 Name         Z-Wave Button Mc
 Version      2023-10-18T20:35:42.839822015        
───────────────────────────────────────────────────
- id: Simon/S100 Switch IO-2
    deviceLabel: Simon S100 Switch IO
    manufacturerId: 0x0267
    productType: 0x0105
    productId: 0x0000
    deviceProfileName: button-no-battery
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