I’ve been running ST for a few years in one home and for the past month I’ve been bench testing Hubitat in my second home.
My first impressions of Hubitat are very good, it runs every device I’ve thrown at it, with only very minor tweaks to the handlers, and it’s even running webCoRE locally!
But Hubitat is very immature, it does not have an app, and the app that’s being developed will not be based around device tiles and manual controll… Hubitat is all about automation so that’s gonna be a big put off for a lot of people. Where ST has a nice customisable tile with a nice icon / image for toggling on/off, Hubitat has two plain grey tiles that don’t even highlight to feedback the current state (you have to read the device states from a different part of the page).
You can’t view all devices at the same time like we can on the ST dashboard / things page, you have to enter each device to view the state / control anything.
There’s no ActionTiles on Hubitat, so those that have the old code are using an older version of SmartTiles instead which feels like using a Blackberry instead of an iPhone.
Response times are certainly faster than ST, but actually not as much as I thought they would be. My ST home has things very refined and ST cloud lag has greatly improved over the years. Hubitat is basically just a re-flashed TV streaming device with zwave / Zigbee dongles plugged into the USB (it still has the redundant HDMI, IR and audio ports lol), so with hardware that wasn’t designed to run HA it seems to lack local processing speed compared to ST.
So ST cloud use actually isn’t that slow, and Hubitat local use is slower than it I hoped, mostly cancelling out the speed benefits of going local on Hubitat.
I haven’t suffered much from ST down time, mainly because I don’t rely too much on the automations and all my devices can be used manually via wall switches if / when things do fail.
There are obviously huge privacy benefits in using Hubitat, but I’ve personally never been too concerned about that. I remember a post on here from ST assuring users that they don’t sell our data, and even if that’s not true, all they would sell is anonymous meta-data which does me no harm and may be used by device manufactures to improve the overall HA market.
I’m conscious that when the Hubitat app gets released, if it allows control when away from home then it will be talking through a cloud, so my data will be exposed anyway… maybe I’m being naive but I trust Samsung with my data more than a I do with an unknown startup.
That said, here I am using ActionTiles and I’d be interested to know from @tgauchat what measures are in place to protect data and how it’s being shared / sold?
The ST community is awesome and that counts for soooo much, there’s no problem to big that can’t be solved on here!!
Unless ST completely screw things up with the migration / new app / new API, I have no intention of moving my ST home over to Hubitat. And I’m still on the fence regarding using Hubitat in my second home / recommending it to anyone, it’s staying on the test rig for now.