Just purchased, few questions: Harmony all off? Hue motion sensor? Temperature as "if"?

I wonder if someone can help. I have just purchased the smartthings starter kit and set it up. I have a few questions. I mainly got it as i want to automate some lights and switches.

One thing i want to do is automate a socket depending on temperature. I thought this woul be part of the capibility of the multi sensor as it has temperature listed as one of its options. I cant seem to find how to trigger a routine from this. Can anyone help?

i have a couple of hue motion sensors but it also doesn’t have an option to add these. Any ideas?

I also have a harmony hub and was hoping to connect this to smartthings so i can set up a routine ‘all off’ when i leave the house with the presence sensor but i cant seem to find that functionality either.


Welcome! :sunglasses:

In the future, create one thread for each of your questions and put the device you were asking about in the topic thread and you will get a lot more answers.

One of the advantages of SmartThings is that it it can be made to work with so many different devices and integrations . But for exactly that reason, a lot of people will just skip past anything which doesn’t have a topic title that seems of specific interest to them. For example, the people who have a Harmony, may not have the Hue motion sensor, etc.

As far as triggering off of temperature, there is a “virtual thermostat” smartapp in the marketplace that will probably do what you want, but since I myself can’t use the app at the present time, I will leave that to someone else to walk you through.

For the Hue motion sensor, the short answer is that it doesn’t officially work with SmartThings. The longer answer is that there are some community members who have created custom code that may do what you want, but it has some limitations. So hopefully someone using one of those integrations will reply.

The Hue Motion sensors will self discover if you put them into pairing mode.

However - The Hue Motion Sensors cannot exist at the same time in SmartThings and the Hue Bridge. It’s one or the other. If you already have them in your Hue Bridge, all you have to do is put the Motion Sensor into pairing mode and then press on the + from Things in ST and it will find the Hue Motion Sensors. After you have done that, you will see that they are no longer available for the Hue Bridge. They we’re perfectly fine with ST. I have had no issues with mine.

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Which DTH are you using for the Hue motion sensors? Do they automatically Discover? (They didn’t used to, they used to just pair as a “thing,” but that may have changed. )

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It’s been many many months since I had added them, but you might be right.

Technically it kind of self discovers in that it does get added as a Thing, but as for the DTH, I must have gone in after the fact and added the “Hue Motion Sensor” Device Handler. It’s possible I already had the Device Handler installed previously. Dunno, I’m getting old. :exploding_head:

Anyway, here is the DTH to use with the Hue Motion Sensor:

Wow wow and wow. Thank you all for the responses. I wasn’t expecting that!

I have successfully added my harmony routines.
Is there a way they can appear in alexa as a ‘device’ rather than a ‘scene’ as this way i will be able to direct control it rather than saying ‘alexa ask harmony to’. I currently have a work around with Yonomi but would be good to have everything through smartthings.

Thank you for the help with the hue sensors. I was thinking that I wouldn’t really need my hue hub now but realised that i had a couple of switches.
Saying that I just unplugged my hue hub from the router and the switches still worked. Is this because they have already been bonded to those particular lights? If so i will deconnect the hue hub and only connect it to make the changes (at the moment when I discover devices in alexa everything is duplicated as it finds it in hue and smartthings) unles there are any benefits to having both?
Also how do i go about inputting the DTH and what is that, sorry for the rookie question but seen it referanced to quite a lot in the forums.

I will def check out WebCoRE as that seems right up my street. I have set the presence sensor to turn certain things on when I arrive home but would only want it to turn on the devices if it were between a certain timeframe, i assume you can do that within its more diverse options?

Another question on the presence sensors. Say my wife and i have one and when we leave everything is set to turn off (tried today and is great) but what happens if my father comes to my house with my daughter and we are both still out. When he starts turning things on will the system see we are still away and keep turning it off or is it a one time command when we both leave.
Similarly if i got home and certain things turned on which i subsequently turn off, whe my wife arrives home does that mean they will turn back on again or will the system know i am already home and it has already carried out that command.

Oh sorry one more question. The motion sensor that came with my starter pack doesn’t seem to be working. Pulled the tab out but nothing happened. Followed the other steps, took out battery and held the reset button but no light comes on like it says it should. Any ideas?

Thank you all once again


That’s really strange. I have a few times and they always appear as a scene. I have taken a screen shot.
Also the routines I have set up in ST appear as a scene.

If you have the Hue “Bridge”, use it. If you try to add / remove bulbs directly into ST (without the bridge), you will most likely find yourself having issues in the future.

The Hue Motion Sensors are a slightly different animal. If you put them into pairing mode and let ST discover them, they will then be broken / removed from the Hue Bridge / Application (nothing extra you have to do here).

To add the Device Handler to your Hue Motion Sensors in Smartthings, you need to do the following:

  1. Login to https://account.smartthings.com

  2. Select Device Handlers

  3. Create New Device Handler

  4. From Code

  5. Copy / Paste the code from my post above for the GitHub Device Handler

  6. Click Create / Save Publish / For Me

  7. Now select Devices

  8. Find your Hue Motion Sensor

  9. Click Edit

  10. Select type and scroll down the list toward the bottom until you find the Device Handler you just created “Hue Motion Sensor” and select it.

  11. Press Update

Your device(s) should now work.

Just tried that and disabled the yonomi one and all I get now is ‘that device is disabled…’.
Even tried re naming the disabled yonomi one and still the same. What a pain. I think I will need to start alexa from scratch at some point without yonomi.

I’m not sure this is for this thread! Lol

Any idea on the presence sensor questions?

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Lots of info on this post! I also just ordered s a ST starter kit & already own Hue starter kit & harmony…

I want to add switches & dimmers, that’s why I finally pulled trigger on st hub. Currently I control my Hue & Harmony w/ Alexa with no issues.

I’ll watch the videos posted above later today, but So WebCore is basically like a beefy version of IFFT?