Ikea Tretakt

looks like there’s a new IKEA smart plug, the Tretakt.
This seems a very good price at 10 pounds when you consider it’s bundled with a remote too (probably rodret, but not certain).

Anyone tried this with SmartThings yet? I’ve been a little disappointed with the reliability of the tradfri outlet , I had 3 fail, I’d hope this is a better design.

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I saw it, the bundled RODRET (or that’s what it looks like and some media sites say) costs almost the same purchased alone.

For those not familiar with UK plugs, that is actually a sensible design as the button is on the top when the plug is in a wall socket. Too many designs have the button on the side where it is obstructed by other plugs in multiple gang sockets, or on the bottom where it is obstructed by the cable of standard plug tops inserted into it.

The Tradfri model had the bulk of the plug at the bottom where the LED is obstructed by cables and the reset hole is hard to reach when a skirting mounted socket is in use.

The Tradfri was usually pictured with the bulge at the top so the socket was upside down, and this one has the label upside down suggesting it too was envisioned to be the other way up.

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It’s a better physical design, no doubt, but i was also hoping the internal design was better to. The ones I had that failed the relay failed and oscillated with a constant clicking noise even after a reset. Hoping this doesn’t suffer that problem.

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It is a rodret, I checked the docs on the ikeas website for the bundle

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Yes, I’ve lost two or three to that. I’ve had other issues with them but nothing that power cycling wouldn’t cure, and firmware updates seem to have confined them to the past.

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Update on this, I’ve been to IKEA and bought the bundle. The remote is a rodret and I got it working with @mocelet s driver (had to pair it about 4 times to get it working but got there in the end, paired at first as a thing even though driver available), thanks @mocelet :+1:
The outlet also pairs but as a zigbee switch with dimmer control. It does work though as the on and off control the plug. It’s still got a relay click but much quieter than the older design, so I’m hoping it’s a different, better, internal design.

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Anyone know if the Tretakt repeats the Zigbee signal as good as the previous one(Trådfri)?

Ikea has started to sell INSPELNING ( Outlet with Energy Meter ) in Sweden.

INSPELNING Stickpropp - smart/energimätare - IKEA

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Anyone tried the new INSPELNING plug? Is there a driver available that support the energy meter?

I haven’t, it might match one of the generic fingerprints of the stock drivers, but I don’t think it will report the value correctly for high loads and will also display as a dimmer.

I’ve read about the plug in supporting libraries for other systems, turns out it uses different divisors depending on the load. For less than 1000W it uses divisor 1 and sends the value while for more than 1000W it uses divisor 10 and sends the value divided by 10 (don’t quote me on that). A custom driver should take that into account, stock drivers apparently use a fixed divisor value read at initialization time.

I’m tempted to get one because it’s cheap and would come in handy, but I prefer to wait for the next sale of the Eve Energy (Matter over Thread). There are already firmware updates for INSPELNING fixing some reporting bugs but SmartThings will not apply them. Probably not a deal-breaker since the bug is with the voltage report.

Edit: By the way, it looks like it reports changes quite fast, that may be an advantage over the Eve Energy for automations detecting if a device is on or off. Currently the Eve Energy reports every 60 seconds, but look at this chart! [Device Support Request] IKEA inspelning power monitoring smart plug · Issue #3374 · zigpy/zha-device-handlers · GitHub

Edit 2: Just read they also use divisor 1000. Custom drivers will need some work to get the measurement correct and avoid race conditions, the traditional static divisor is not going to work.

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@mocelet, Thanks for the feedback.

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Not being able to update the firmware from SmartThings is probably the red flag for me in INSPELNING being a new product, you can’t know if it includes 2.4.45 firmware or later in the box from the manufacturing date.

I don’t know if this smart plug can be bridged via Matter using the Dirigera but don’t expect energy monitoring that way since the Dirigera is not yet Matter 1.3 compatible.

Talking about Matter, I found that divisor thing of Zigbee weird and error-prone (you need to check the divisor, if the divisor changes but you receive the power value before the new divisor you have a wrong value reported). In Matter there are no divisors and the unit is standard (mW), so much better even if it takes a couple more bytes to send the data.

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I’m getting a few of them tomorrow, will connect via the Digiera. Don’t need the power monitoring but I’ll have a play with the various connection options and see what’s best

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The firmware will upgrade when connecting the plug to Dirigera (may take a few hours) so you won’t have the buggy out of the box firmware the regular SmartThings user would get (ST can’t update it).

The best option having the Dirigera is through Matter, although right now power monitoring won’t be there.

Any update on how they work? Can their pair with smartthings hub directly without dirigera?

Hi yes the connect to SmartThings directly, Not sure if the Power consumption is accurate. But it’s displaying data.

When connected via Matter from the IKEA bridge hub, it works without power consumption.

You are correct where Power consumption wasn’t required I’ve gone with Matter

Dirigera has the advantage of firmware updates, energy reporting via Matter will arrive when they include Matter 1.3 support.

Just out of curiosity, are you using any of those smart plugs right out of the box? (with the original firmware, never connected to the Dirigera). That’s going to be the most useful experience for SmartThings users since ST cannot update them.

Yes, keen to know answer to this myself. I don’t have a dirigera hub and have no plans to buy one so devices would need to pair with smartthings out of the box.

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