Nice rule building, hopefully we’ll get something official like that soon.
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Was that 15 years ago?.. Age creeps up on ya,… I just remember the backberry then IPhone as far as popularity - Although I did have a windows phone back in the day – And of course there was Symbian OS ( I had Siemens Phone based on Symbian OS )
Anyhow, My point was if it was that EZ to see in to the future and be able to exploit what is obvious via hindsight , tech would be dominated by Xerox and IBM …even before Bill Gates missed exploiting mobility
10 points to griffindor for the title… Hahaha
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Not to mention you can pick up a used one, more than capable of a home server, for a couple hundred bucks.
I know someone with fibaros first home centre and it is very reliable and i loveeeee there UI its very futuristic and detailed yet clear but it never seemed “hackable” . . . There new rule builder looks superb to be fair . . . All time variables and intricate details etc could make it a winner
However lets see . . . SmartThings plan to have all these major leaps and bounds in all the above areas after there hub2 launch so fingers crossed 
Ps: there presence system (with mobiles) is bullet proof . . . Not too toot their trumpet or anything
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For $ 700 for the hub , it better be good… …
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Well… Accurate and timely actions / mode control based on mobile phone location / presence is a “killer app feature” which is absolutely central to competitive systems.
Take a look at the marketing materials for Abode, for example, and realize it all falls apart without accurate “presence”…
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I couldn’t agree more @tgauchat - its the one thing that lets my ST system down is presence, if that was more reliable and accurate i could take my own home system ten stages forward with modes and actions relevant to presence, but as it stands its to unreliable and causes more issues than not…
abode looks great from first glance, any integration to st to solve out presence issues . . .
I have used fibaro, and to be fair, they have also experience problems, not ST Hub1 problems. For instance, the last system update (4.x) did break cameras integration besides other non fibaro devices. The IDE is pretty complicated, with almost no documentation (and can only be achieved with their Hubv2- as they sell a lite version). The rule builder helps you with, if that happen do other things, but when you begin adding as lot of conditions is not very easy control. And the community forum is actually non existent compared to ST.
Pretty sure, they aim for another market… people interested in HA - their interface (dashboard) is much better than current ST. But my experience with Fibaro, is that people tend to use it more to control things from the mobile devices, rather that the automation approach, this principle also applies to other HA systems (I have experience installing some UPB and x10 HA systems).
The best example of the ST flexibility is smartAlarm (thanks @geko), as doing something similar in Fibaro for an average user is almost impossible…, and thats why ST is so appealing to me, I have been able to customize much more things, and ultimately through SharpTools (thanks @joshua_lyon), being able to increase WAF (trying to have the dashboard approach, that is important for a lot of people.)
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I know this is an old thread but I’m hopeful that some of you above might get a notification having migrated to Fibaro???
At the moment I’m becoming increasingly frustrated with ST. Like others have stated the app is slow/crap, the removal of the IDE hangs over us and it’s just not reliable.
Have any of you moved to Fibaro Home Center? And if so how was the experience?
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