There’s supposedly a new app version being announced this fall to support the Home Connectivity Alliance. That’s not Matter: it’s a different initiative just for appliances (which are not presently included in Matter). Lots of rumors:
Would i be right in thinking the HCA is geared more towards C2C connectivity JD, bringing a more diverse set of wifi products into ST without the need for an ST hub
It would not make sense to require a hub for wifi products
I don’t think it’s Apple in this case: the Ikea and Aqara home automation apps both have fullfeatured iOS versions and both are adding Matter support.
I think it’s more that many of the features in the “major update” that’s been officially announced are specifically in regard to the Android operating system: they may just not be relevant to a nonAndroid phone.
Right that WiFi does not require a hub, but it doesn’t require a cloud either. Only if you run without a cloud you might then need some kind of hub to handle the local messages.
For example, HomeKit devices use WiFi, Bluetooth Or Thread, but everything except the voice assistant and camera cloud storage runs locally, no active internet connection required. The same Meross WiFi devices that require a cloud connection for SmartThings run just fine without internet on HomeKit. So it just depends on how the platform is designed, it’s not a technical requirement.
Matter is also intended to run locally for WiFi devices: we’ll see how that goes once it arrives.
BTW, @TAustin has an Edge Driver for Shelly WiFi switches and sensors which allows them to run locally with ST now. (The official integration is cloud to cloud.) he’s done some amazing work on the new platform.
I’m a hardcore Webcore user and had been planning to make the move to Home Assistant, but I very much doubt I’ll have the time to do so before September 30th. What a pain…
What are you talking about?
You have no idea, there is no “they” when it comes to webCoRE, there is no executive board, who is this “they” you speak of?
Do you know what the “CoRE” stands for in webCoRE?
“Communities own Rule Engine”.
Exactly what happens on September 30th seems to be described slightly inconsistently. In one place it is is made to sound like the lights are being turned off, but in other places it is the start of a transition.
Frustrating to see the FAQ claiming, yet again, that the presence or absence of ‘Driver’ in the device settings in the app can be used as an indicator of whether or not a device uses Edge. That only applies if you are using the app as the Location owner, or possibly the hub owner if that isn’t actually the same thing (and if it isn’t then I’ve no idea how you know who the owner is). At least that is how it works for me.
I agree that there was the square root of beggar all activity in this area but I am not sure there were ever two choices. WebCoRE on SmartThings was already in an extremely fragile state when I started using it.
Option 1 didn’t have a snowball’s chance unless ST did the work and in order to be a front end there has to be a back end to use and I don’t see any sign of it in the current Rules API.
Option 2 seemed technically more plausible but also less likely. I certainly wouldn’t have paid a penny for webCoRE.