I’ve noticed that making device name change, and room assignment in IDE allow them to be reflected correctly in both apps…
Fix is in progress on this. Root cause determined and it’s being tested.
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Great! Thanks for the info. Does this require an update to the app?
Yes, the fix would be in the form of an app update.
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Couple of points:
- This thread is absurdly long.
- Is there a simulator to see the new app?
I purchase the V3 hub app. 2 years ago and sent it back within 48 hours of seeing what crap the new app was. The real estate waste alone was enough reason to dump it. (scroll…scroll…scroll…) Poor UI.
I would like to revisit to see what I am getting into without finding out from a poorly informed agent that I can’t roll back to (which was wrong…) before I waste 2 days of my life again.
I would sooner use ST as a dumb control and just use Google Home for controls and routines if this is as bad as it was…
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Simulator. No
Yes you can use both Classic and New (I do all the time - just avoid using bith security solutions SHM and STHM and avoid using presence in both apps at once.
Unless I’m mistaken, You dont need a hub to use the app. Create an account and log in. Or your account may still exist?
The new app is still as bad as it was 2 years ago, Samsung are sticking to their UI principles.
Hubs are optional with the new V3 app.
For example, someone might have a Samsung smart TV, a Samsung smart refrigerator, Samsung Wi-Fi camera, and a Phillips hue bridge and that’s it. They do not have to have a hub, but they do have to use the app to create automations for their devices.
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@nathancu, actually there is one in the new app. That was part of a release a few months ago. You can try how is it controlling a Virtual Home. It is in the menu, How to Use. The top one on the screen. - If I can call it as a Simulator.
Well thats new. Color me incorrect…
Although Id prefer to have my dashboard stop moving around and support for custom actions rather than this…
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Are you managing your things in multiple places? (Classic/IDE/etc/App/Etc)
Define manage.
I typically make changes (add, rename, delete, etc.) in New except when adding a new virtual device.
I operate devices in Classic because use these features:
Rooms Manager Occupancy switch
Neato Robot management console
Rboy advanced lock features.
Almost all automation is in WebCoRE or voice.
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Well, besides my previous complaints that the new app Automations not allowing setting up recordings using Arlo Cameras, I have another concern.
I can’t seem to find the new SmartThings app’s STHM or the Automations listed anywhere in the IDE. Why aren’t the new app’s STHM and Automations visible in the IDE like the old app’s SHM and Routines are?
Because they aren’t Groovy smartapps. The Groovy IDE only shows Groovy smartapps.
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Is this why Automations aren’t exposed to Alexa? Will that change in the future? A deal-breaker if there ever was one.
Scenes are exposed to Alexa
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Automations are broken. Uhhh. Long time ST v2 and v3. Will phase ST out. I will not move to that new Samung ST app and spend the cycles to upgrade my personal devices. Hubitat is next! Local processing, better development crowd, control your own upgrades!!! See ya.
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Can you describe how you would like to see automations exposed to Alexa?
Exactly the same way Routines in the Classic app are exposed today. I want to be able to invoke an Automation from a voice interface, or even an Alexa Routine if I so choose.
Have you tried scenes?
https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/210204906-Amazon-Alexa-SmartThings-Scenes
If you want to trigger an automation from Alexa, today you can do that with a virtual switch as the trigger.
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