Honestly not sure where to post this but completely frustrated with the new app. I’m now 4 clicks away from just turning on a light… open app, select devices, select the device, click on/off. Plus there is a network delay as the silly thing tries to establish connectivity ahead of when that connectivity is actually needed… plus, I can’t easily see what smartapps are connected to a device. Overall it is slow and clunky. I’ve served as the CIO for a number of public companies and can say I do embrace change but this is not an upgrade in any sense of the word. I’m sure it solves some back-end technical challenges but wow from a front end UI perspective I’m just about ready to call it quits. Happy to recommend some great mobile UI developers who can get this thing optimized. If not, does anyone know if there are any 3rd party UIs?
I used to use a custom DTH. Now I use the stock Z-Wave Fan Controller and it works well.
use Z-wave Fan
ActionTiles, SharpTools just to name a few.
And - next time - just open a new thread. If you pick the wrong forum, @JDRoberts or @jody.albritton will move it to the right spot, I’m sure.
Thanks. I switched to that one. Looks like even with it, the Execution Location still shows as Cloud. The GE Dimmer switch (same brand but for lights) shows it is Local. Was hoping to get Local on the fan too.
Are you planning on using “SmartLighting” for the automation? If not, then it really does not matter all that much as every single other automation runs in the cloud. Only SmartLighting is eligible to run as a local app on the hub.
There is no local fan controller DTH… …yet - you CAN use the Zwave Dimmer but you lose the hi, med, low divisions in the detail UI and fancy swirly fan icon in newapp. 
(Have to admit that one is cool if not useful…)
To make a DTH local it has to be installed in the hub firmware. First step to that is having it as a default provided DTH - now that we have Zwave Fan (Didn’t used to) there’s hope it may get pulled to the hub and become local. We as end users can suggest that by submitting a feature request ticket to Smartthings.
Sure, there are some paid and some free. You can’t do everything you can do in the official app, specifically you can’t do the admin functions like add a device, so you would still have to use it occasionally. But as far as everyday turning on a light, checking the status of devices, etc. these “dashboard“ options work well and are very popular.
See the recent discussion thread. Although the person is asking about a wall panel, the same apps will work on a phone since they are browser-based and you can customize the tiles. 
FAQ: Sharptools , actiontiles or native ST app for your wall panel? (2020)
Thanks once again JDR. Happy to pay and use the stock Samsung app for admin functionality, fair trade for efficiency.
I forgot to mention that the dashboard topic I linked to includes a number of posts from @tgauchat , who sadly passed away shortly after that thread was created. He is very much missed in the forum.
He was one of the developers for ActionTiles, so if you have any questions about one of his posts, just reply to it and tag @625alex and you’ll get an answer.
Hey @ctdennis - I’m the lead developer of SharpTools dashboards, so feel free to tag me or PM me if you have any questions about SharpTools!
I use SharpTools dashboards on my phone as the primary means of controlling my home and checking the status of things. Here’s a quick video of the main dashboards I use on my phone. As JDRoberts and others have mentioned though, one of the great things about dashboards is you can customize them to look and feel how you want them to.
This is definitely needed, but they need to be able to speak Korean.
aint that the truth 
Woo something wonderful has happened in the past 30 minutes. It may be a fluke but my device screens are loading super fast and not requiring a refresh to get tHe info to display. I’d better enjoy it while it lasts
Just to keep the story going, on Wednesday, a day after I received the response from ST saying to buy their brand motion sensor since one of my Bosh models was showing offline after migrating, I received an email for SmartThings Maintenance - SmartThings Hub 2015 (v2) and 2018 (v3) Firmware Update - 21 October 2020.
After this update…my Bosch sensor has returned to normal. Hasn’t been offline once since.
Fibaro RGBW controller, using the SmartThings stock DTH (https://github.com/SmartThingsCommunity/SmartThingsPublic/blob/master/devicetypes/smartthings/fibaro-rgbw-controller.src/fibaro-rgbw-controller.groovy), has a White Level slider from 0 - 100% in classic which is completely missing in the new app. How do we get back the white level slider.
Keep in mind this is NOT color temperature (the 2700k - 6500k on some RGBW devices) but white level that goes from 0 - 100%. Apparently this is considered a custom attribute but there have been no updates to this DTH. Will these types of things be updated or do we just not have a way to control white level anymore?
Are momentary buttons/child devices ever going to work again? Have I missed something in relation to this? Surely on the fix horizon?
I’m glad you asked that. I have a handler with momentaries/buttons in components. They work fine on the details page but were not detected as conditions in Automations (even though IKEA buttons worked with essentially the same code).
Your question prompted me to look again and now they are detected. They aren’t displayed the same way IKEA buttons are (i.e. as component names which then pop up attribute values), instead displaying as a list of attribute values without any component names at all.
Life is still messed up though. I use your DTH for momentaries @orangebucket and only one of my buttons looks like a momentary in ST. The other 4 look like remote controls with all the options for Held, Pressedand Toggled (up to 6 times)!
The ST DTH refresh or cache system is broken.
The caching seems to be the least of the problems. I have to add presentation IDs (vids) to several DTHs over the last few months, even though they were working fine without them previously. Some were for things like suddenly claiming they were unreachable, others were for the plain batsh*t mental sort of thing you describe. I now consider it to be risky to not have one.