[Deprecated as of Apr 8, 2018] Smart Home Monitor Exit and Entry Delays (Version1)

But then the alarm fails to go off while an intruder and you/your family are in the home…

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Yes I am more concerned about false alarm in current situation actually I only recently installed a contact sensor in my main entrance while I installed a number of them in other doors/windows for quite a while in additional to motion sensor, by default SHM only care about motion sensor in armed away and I only have the virtual sensor for my main entrance sensor using this smart app

Are you requesting an option for an immediate intrusion alert while in Armed Night/Stay mode? That is doable. The issue is sometimes when in this mode, a known individual arrives and needs some time to disarm the alarm.

One of the conundrums with using the Xfinity/Centralite keypad is it offers 3 armed modes vs 2 in SmartHome, so armed/stay and armed/home are conflated into Night mode

No I really like that you developed this smartapp, I haven’t had a chance to install it yet but I might this weekend. I’m definitely in the crowd that has been clamoring for entry/exit delays in Smart Home Monitor for nearly two years now. In my case I would probably still use a short entry delay while my system is armed at night.

I’m suggesting that a feature that would cancel the alarm if a contact sensor opened and closed within a set period of time, completely defeats the purpose of arming a security system, whether or not someone’s home.

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I share your concerns about reliability and security, and by design motion sensors are not monitored in SHM Night/Stay mode.

Using Smarthings for home security even without SmartApps and Community defined devices is a tradeoff I’m knowingly taking. Please take a look at the Caveat that was recently added to the release notice at the beginning of this thread.

I would enjoy deprecating this app because ST added exitdelay and entrydelay to SH.

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I agree!!!

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[Update Released]

  • You may choose between using unique or non unique (one) simulated contact sensors.
    When creating a delay profile with non-unique simulated sensors, a notice is issued that can be ignored. Since SmartHome uses the name of this device for it’s intrusion message, you may have the app send an optional intrusion alert message with the name of the open sensor. This adds two inputs controls on the parent app.

  • Fixed a bug with the Open Door Monitor at arming caused by changing from Multiple to Single devices on the input definition.

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Thank you for trying the app. My apologies for the issue.

The app tests “Manufacturer” and “Model” for null and when both are true assumes it is a simulated device.

Forgive me, I am unfamiliar with this device and need some additional information. Please go to the IDE, My Devices, click on the device, Please send the data for “Type”, and “Data” Manufacturer and Model. If possible a screen shot of the device data would be most helpful. If it is community created please include a link to the Release notice,
Thank You
Arn B.

Module SHM Delay Child was changed to include an additional test for the presence of a battery. Simulated devices don’t have a battery, at least in my universe.

Please update SHM Delay Child, retry and kindly let me know the result. The updated current version is v1.0.7a

Arn B

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Updated and working great. Thank you.

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OTOH, it is not one I am willing to make! Unfortunately, that means I still have my lame ADT security system…

Everyone needs to make an intelligent, informed decision based on their own use cases :sunglasses:

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I started without any security system. For me Smartthings is a good compromise, but if I needed rock solid security, I would install a wired, monitored system.

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Sorry for more noob question. I have motion sensors at every door. How do I set delay to the motion sensor at the door as well? Currently it’s only support contact sensor.

Your setup with a motion sensor that “sees” the door or keypad area is something I thought about when developing this app, realizing it could be a problem. With motion sensors being critical local backup in case of an internet outage, my suggestion is to relocate the motion sensor

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Hello, I currently use SmartAlarm but it’s no longer supported. What I want to happen is be able to arm the home alarm via mobile device presence, and then when I return and unlock the front door via TouchPad a delay happens and allows me to disarm the system by Lowes Iris keypad without the alarm going off right when I walk in the door(current behavior).

Is this possible with this, or even better… The system disarm with successful keypad passcode input?

This SmartApp is to set delay for the contact sensors that SHM doesn’t have. It’s not a full alarm system but with this, SHM and lock code manager. I have exactly what you described above. So yes, it’s doable.

[Update Released]

Changed the global defaults and updated the documentation

You may choose between using unique or non unique (one) simulated contact sensors.
The default is now: use a single (non-unique) simulated sensor.

Since SmartHome uses the name of the simulated sensor device for it’s intrusion message, by default the app creates an intrusion alert message with the name of the open sensor. When using unique simulated sensors this mesage may be suppressed.

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[Update Released]

Added optional 3 digit emergency number, and optional phone numbers that are included on the app’s intrusion message. On many smartphones, phone numbers embedded within a message are clickable.

Hopefully this will help with placing that important call in a moment of panic.

For me this worked best when the message is an SMS (text) . Clicking the number on the push notiifcation brought me to the SmartThings’ Notification Log.

Internal Changes
Modified child module making it non-installable if published.
Properly recognizes devices types with the word ‘Simulated’

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I installed this wonderful app tonight with one problem, and I’m betting I’m doing something wrong. But I have all contact sensors being monitored except the front door entrance by my keypad that is run by a simulated one. everytime I activate the alarm with the keypad it says intrusion detected by the simulated sensor…what am I doing wrong?

Sounds like a setup issue of some sort, so here’s a lot of detail on setting up the app.

The app is designed to monitor real contact sensors that must be removed from SmartHome(SH) monitoring, then pairs the real sensor with a simulated contact monitored by SH. Only real contact sensors used with access and egress points aka a door that you actually use to enter and leave the living space, should be monitored by this app. Please remove any contact sensor profiles for windows and non access/egress doors and restore those contacts to SH monitoring. BTW I’m sure you know it but all real contact sensors, excluding those monitored by this app, plus the simulated sensor used by this app should be monitored by SH Security–do not use the ALL option. Setup for both home and away mode.

First: If you are allowing this App to issue Intrusion messages what sensor was given as the cause. SH will always show the simulated sensor.

My question: you mention there is a simulated sensor by the front door. What is tripping the simulated device? Very confused here since my app will exclude simulated devices from being monitored by throwing an error message. The sensor on the front door must be monitored by this app, but if it is truly simulated that will required some adjustments to the code allowing for it to be used as a monitored device.
Please send me a screen shot of the device from “My Devices” Also If you are allowing this App to issue Intrusion messages what sensor was given as the cause. SH will always show the simulated sensor.

The other thing that can trip the system is a motion sensor that “sees” the keypad or door, but this does not seem like the issue.

Please recheck the app profiles, make sure the appropriate real sensors are not being monitored by SH, and the simulated sensor is being monitored.

Hope this helps. Please let me know.
Arn B