Canadian SmartThings User Group

I have the bridge for Mysmartblinds and at this point, there’s only Alexa integration. I would love to be able to get the blinds to show up as “things” in ST and willing to use a Raspberry Pi as a bridge until they officially support ST. Anyone know how to get the bridge to work with ST?

I’m all ears. If anyone knows of a way to activate Alexa Skills w/o spoken word, that would be fantastic. However, I believe that is not allowed. iSmartAlarm released an Alexa skill that reacts immediately, as opposed to the terrible IFTTT integration that takes several minutes at times!

For things like blinds, you can obviously trigger a digital recording and activate that way. Might get some weird looks, but it’ll work.

For Stelpro Thermostats consider these links:

https://www.aartech.ca/stz402-zwave-line-voltage-baseboard-thermostat.html
https://www.aartech.ca/stelpro-stzb402-zigbee-baseboard-thermostat.html

Version 3 Hub

I am considering Smartthings and see that I can order the Version 3 hub from Amazon.com for delivery to Canada. There is one user review on Amazon.com that says the version 3 hub does not (and may not ever) work in Canada. Does anyone know if the version 3 hub works in Canada? Is Smartthings (Samsung) determining the physical location of the hub and then not allowing access to their servers?

Thanks, Elliot
Toronto

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@elliotk1 You’ll be much happier with Hubitat. Send me a note on their community site and I’ll tell you more about my setup. I’m in Toronto too.

I’m new to the Smarthings group and have the v3 hub here in Canada and no it doesn’t work right now. I talked to their support and they stated that when it launched it was supposed to have Canadian support but it’s been delayed. He stated that they have had many requests for it to work in Canada and that they were working on it but didn’t have an ETA. Told me to keep checking back with their blog and was hopeful it would be working in a few weeks. I’m hoping so or I’ve thrown away a pile of money. Since the other older 2 versions work I can’t see them not getting support for this one as well.

It does make a decent paperweight right now though. :wink:

@William_Poznansky, LOL. Hope they get it working soon. Seriously thinking of going Wink or scaled back and go TP-Link wifi.

Thanks, Elliot

I will never do Wink. I tried them and their support was even worse. I bought some generic z-wave door sensors and while I could connect them to the hub they wouldn’t report at all. Called into their support and they said that for starters their email notification system hadn’t been working for over a month and they had no idea what was wrong. But better yet they said that if the device is not on their qualified list they can’t guarantee anything will work even though I pointed out they specifically said on their site that most generic z-wave devices will work but may have limited functionality. I got zero functionality and they basically said too bad.

I won’t ever look at Wink again, but that’s my story.

Thanks for sharing

Check out Hubitat. Use groovy code from SmartThings with few changes and full local control. Not the sudo local that never really reached maturity in SmartThings.

SmartThings now being sold at Lowes in Canada.

https://www.lowes.ca/search/smartthings.html?iterm=smartthings

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Great to see! Now if the great deals on Iris brand ST compatible devices like being reported in the U.S. come up here would be very nice to have access to!

Highly doubt they’ll ship old inventory up to the Canadian stores to sell them off. It’s pretty obvious they’re going to drop the Iris line. They don’t say it, but I’ve seen this kind of reply many times before. They aren’t allowed to disclose a product end of life that hasn’t been publicly announced, or they may not know it themselves or the company has not confirmed it with the lower ranks.

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Still getting shafted on pricing!!!

Hey fellow Canadians! I’ve recently moved and won’t be setting up my ST system again. I’m looking to sell the whole shabang. I have the hub, 3x Centralight wall outlets, 1x GE wall outlet, 1x Smart Sense Motion Sensor, 2x Smart Sense Multi Sensors. Looking for $250CAD

Not sure if this type of post is allowed in this thread so Mod, please delete if its not allowed.

Cheers!

Hey just wondering if anyone has been able to successfully use the Visonic MP-841 motion detector (from Rogers Smart Home Monitoring) with the SmartThings hub. I was able to get the Visonic door sensors to work but ran into a wall with trying to get the motion detector to work.

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

You might find the freq to be different and not compatible with ST.
I work for a large Canadian telecom company :wink: and some of our devices are Z-Wave and pair fine but other devices which work with our hub are 433 and 345 Mhz which are not ST compatible.

@daven Thanks for the response! The Visonic door sensors that I was able to successfully pair and get working with ST were from Rogers were Zigbee. The motion sensor (Visonic MP-841) that I am trying to get working is listed as being ZigBee H.A. 1.2 compliant on the manufacturer website. Based on your insider knowledge, would you happen to know if that still excludes the device from being ST compatible?

If it’s Zigbee it should pair. The right driver might be another issue. Sorry, I’m on Hubitat now, so I don’t know the answer for the driver. Maybe someone can answer that. Here’s pairing and reset instructions. If you’re unable to pair (ignoring the parts about touch screen in the instructions) then it probably just need a factory reset, which they are calling “defaulting” in their instructions :roll_eyes:

To pair the detector to the Touchscreen (control panel), you must set it to pairing mode.

  1. First set the Touchscreen (panel) to pairing mode and then the detector.
  2. To activate, pull the activation strip that protrudes from the back of the detector (see Figure 5).
  3. The green LED (see Figure 1) blinks 3 times every 5 seconds (repeated up to 20 times) to indicate that the detector is searching for the
    Touchscreen (control panel).
    Note: If detector pairing is not successful during the searching process – by tripping the motion detector or by pressing the tamper switch – the
    searching process will restart.
  4. Complete the pairing procedure on the Touchscreen (control panel) (see the pairing instructions in the Touchscreen / control panel’s installation
    guide).
    Note: Pairing should be performed before installation.
    (Detector installation will have a good link with panel, if RSSI indicated on the Panel higher than -70BM and LQI stronger than 250. If values of
    RSSI and LQI are lower, change Detector placement)
    3.5 Rebooting the Detector
    You can reboot the detector, as follows.
  5. Remove the battery cover.
  6. Press and release the tamper switch for 1 to 2 sec. (see Figure 1).
  7. Close the battery cover.
    D-306094 XHS1-TY / MP-841 FLAT PIR COMCAST
    3.6 Defaulting the Detector
    CAUTION! The defaulting process removes the device from the network and enables re-pairing.
    Separate the detector from the bracket to remove both batteries. (see Figure 7).

1. Press and hold down the detector’s tamper switch.
2. Insert one of the two batteries into the detector while observing battery polarity.
3. Release the tamper switch within 4 seconds (the LED blinks 3 times every 5 seconds).

@SmartHomePrimer Thanks for the detailed info Doug! I followed the steps and able to successfully pair the motion sensor to the ST hub as a thing, but still unable to get it to work. I think you are right regarding coming up with a Device Handler for this specific motion sensor.

Based on my other research, I know users were able to get this working using other devices such as a ConBee.

Would you happen to help out with a device handler for this specific sensor? I searched the forum, and there appeared to be one individual who took on the task but doesn’t look like they were able to complete it:

Any help would be greatly appreciated!