At my wits end trying to create a simple automation

Okay, I just left my home and came back. I received a push notification when I left/entered the radius. My lights did not turn on when I returned.

So presence does seem to be working. Did you try removing the “after being away for 1 minute” condition?

Yes, I tested without having that set.

Interesting. What kind of devices are the lights? Can you manually control them ol\k? next thing i’d try is removing the turn off after 10 minutes condition from the light actions.

One is a smart plug for a lamp and the other is a smart switch for garage lights. Both smart devices work just fine when controlling via their tiles in ST.

What is the History showing as happening when you arrive home? Provided the filter includes General History it should show the Automations/Routines activating.

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The history for those two devices does not show a time stamp for the event today.

OK, that is useful in itself but I was talking about Menu > History rather than the device histories.

Yes, Menu->History shows my presence status changing to Away and Home with the correct time stamps.

But no sign of the arrival automation running?

No… it shows home has been activated by the automation I created for my presence. The automation to turn on the lights is not there.

Does it matter that I have both my phone and my wife’s phone in the automation? Is that an “All” or “Any”?

The Automation will be triggered, that is to say it will test if its conditions are true, whenever either of the phones arrives or departs. However the actual condition tested is whether or not each phone is at home (present).

If you want an arrival routine to do something when either of you arrives home it is an ‘Any’. If you want to do something when both of you have arrived home it is an ‘All’.

A simple Automation using ‘Any’ only knows that one or both phones are at home. It doesn’t know whether that is because one has arrived or one has left. You have to help it out. One popular method is to set the Location mode to Away once you have both left, and Home once one of you arrives. You can then have the arrival automation only run if the Location mode is away.

When you add qualifiers like ‘After being away for 1 minute’, be aware that all that means is that the last time your phone reported present it was after having been not present for more than a minute. That could have happened a few days ago though.

What make and model?

I use this automation It has works most of the time but I use android so I’m not sure if you can do the same in IOS. My goodbye scene turns on my light etc. I have a similar automation for arriving.

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The smart plug is a GE Z-Wave receptacle and the smart switch is a GE Z-Wave toggle switch.

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