All I can tell you is that we are insanely happy that ST exists. With its hiccups, ups and downs and turn arounds, the fact that improvements are being made and that so many people are (still) around - on both sides - is the very sign we need to keep on going!
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How is this grown up? Grown up companies donāt share roadmap info that would give a competitor an advantage, but grown up companies also fix their issues quickly.
Your lack of resolving issues is a competitive advantage for any new competitor.
Adyās questions demanding st representation in force!!! Wow.
@slagle @st
Thank you for sharing. I will just note, grown up companies do in fact have and share some roadmap information. In fact, it is considered immature to not have will defined internal and external roadmaps in most industries.
Not to say this should be a top priority, but donāt let that belief become dogma.
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I donāt disagree, but, Instead of making some timeline force our decisions and direction were instead focussing on delivering a great product. Once that happens we can be really grown up. 
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NDA+BETA? When? 
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Hey Adrian (and others impacted) -
A hotfix went out to address the ZigBee library. I tested with the custom Osram RGBW device handler and looks to be fixed.
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I thought you already have a NDA, purely based on your verbosityā¦just sayinā muahaha as for BETA, arenāt we all?
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I have nothing. I donāt even know what an NDA is. I only have some NSAIDs at home.
As for Beta, wait a minute, we are?!
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Thank you Brad, cannot test it right now (kidās soccer practice) but I may later. Thank you for the super fast fix. Was the cause part of the ongoing efforts to improve speed?
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What???
When did we get to Beta??? How did I miss that boat ?
Relax man, heās joking, playing it on the system instability as if it were a Beta. No Hub v3 beta yet, or is it?! (suspense music)
New hub ??? Bets???
What is this??? Winkpartheid???
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What annoys the (supercalifragilisticexpialidocious) out of me is the fact that I have to relogin in the ST app several times a day. Seems like it times out connecting to ST and just decides to log me out. Drives me nuts. As if I could become more. Doubt it.
Thatās totally cra cra G
Sounds more like a secretheid to meā¦
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I donāt think they want us to knowā¦ too bad Alexa already told the toasterā¦ we all know that damn thing can only keep a secret for so longā¦
Whoah easy there, what toaster?! (hastily checking toaster for illegitimate TCP connections to Dyn DNS)
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Damn toaster, wonāt give me root access, I think itās possessed. I could probably hack my way into a potato faster than this dumb olā toasterā¦
Yep, got root access to all potatoes in the pantry, making a potato bot army just now.
So what beans did Alexa spill?! Come on, donāt boil toast meā¦
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Farva beans