Which echo devices support Zigbee and Matter?

None of the echo dot devices support zigbee/matter.
The larger echo devices do however. But they would be quite big on your ceiling.

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From Amazon’s website:

Very odd.
I can’t explain this.

The uk Amazon website makes no mention of zigbee cabability

Echo Dot (5th generation, 2022 release) | Big vibrant sound Wi-Fi and Bluetooth smart speaker with Alexa | Deep Sea Blue

Nor does this review

Is it possible uk version doesn’t have zigbee but USA version does?

This detailed review also says only the larger echo devices support zigbee so something is not adding up here. :face_with_monocle::thinking::person_shrugging:

It’s possible. I now have to go Re-add the bit about supporting Matter, because here it is straight from Amazon:

It might indeed be US only. That I do not know.

Much confusion on this topic, because Amazon has changed things and in sort of a weird way.

Also as @Declankh mentions below, it looks like the configurations are different for the UK. So, although most of the links I give in the rest of this post are from the Amazon official developer site, it looks like they may only apply to the US. :thinking:

Zigbee

Originally only the tall cylinder Echo plus included the Zigbee hub.

Then they started adding it to more. But they also sometimes took it away again.

4th generation Echo dot: no Zigbee

5th generation echo dot marked “2022 release”: yes, Zigbee

5th generation echo dot, later releases: no Zigbee

Echo show first generation: no Zigbee

Echo show 10, all generations except the first: yes, Zigbee

Echo show 7: no Zigbee

Understand Smart Home Zigbee Support | Alexa Skills Kit)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09B8V1LZ3?ref_=nav_em__ods_ha_echo_dt_0_2_5_13

Matter over Wifi

Matter is a completely different story. Most matter devices are Wi-Fi, and most echo devices are matter controllers for matter over Wi-Fi.

Matter support has been added to over 100 million Echo devices through a software update. These models include: Echo Dot (5th Gen), Echo Dot (4th Gen), Echo Dot (3rd Gen), Echo Dot (2nd Gen), Echo Dot with Clock (5th Gen), Echo Dot with Clock (4th Gen), Echo Dot with Clock (3rd Gen), Echo Pop, Echo Show 15, Echo Show 10 (3rd Gen), Echo Show 8 (3rd Gen), Echo Show 8 (2nd Gen), Echo Show 8 (1st Gen), Echo Show 5 (3rd Gen), Echo Show 5 (2nd Gen), Echo Hub, Echo Studio (2nd Gen), Echo Flex, Echo Plus (2nd Gen), eero Pro 6E, eero Pro 6, eero 6+, eero 6, eero PoE 6, eero PoE gateway, eero Pro, and eero Beacon.

(Zigbee is not part of matter. Zigbee devices that do work with matter at the time of this writing can only work via a “Matter bridge”.)

matter over thread

To use a Matter over thread device, you need a thread border router. The 1st echo device that was a Thread Border router was the echo generation four, but they have since added the ability to a bunch more models. Note that this list is different than the list that has a zigbee hub inside. Don’t confuse Matter and zigbee. Or matter and thread. They are different compatibility issues.

Thread border routers are required for devices that use Thread to talk to other non-Thread devices, and be controlled by voice assistants, like Alexa. Select Echo and eero devices have Thread border routers built in: Echo (4th Gen), Echo Show 10 (3rd Gen), Echo Show 8 (3rd Gen), Echo Hub, Echo Studio (2nd Gen), Echo Studio (1st Gen), eero Pro 6E, eero Pro 6, eero 6+, eero 6, eero PoE 6, eero PoE gateway, eero Pro, and eero Beacon have built-in Thread border routers.

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See how much less confusing matter made everything? LOL! :wink:

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Do you have the link? I didn’t think they were selling it with a zigbee bulb anymore, the current bundle is with a matter over WiFi bulb. :thinking:

I just heard back from Amazon support. Apparently the initial release of the echo dot fifth generation, which will include (2022 release) in the product description, did have a zigbee hub. But the current fifth generation model does not. So they are still selling old stock of the earlier one. Because that’s not confusing at all!

Two things,
You say gen 5 marked 2022 has zigbee hub yet the link I provided to Amazon.co.uk doesn’t mention it?

Secondly you say the echo dot 4th gen has zigbee hub, are you sure you don’t mean the full size 4th gen? I have 3 4th gen echo dots and I don’t believe any of them have zigbee, in fact if I try to add a zigbee device from the Alexa app it says

The full size 4th Gen. Echo has a ZigBee hub and Thread boarder router.

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Looks like it’s a regional difference. :thinking:

Yep, but we’re discussing echo dots specifically here, suggestion was to ceiling mount echo dot and use a zigbee hub

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You actually made me LOL! :smile:

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i think the Dots dont have any ZIGBEE hub functionalities.

Some models do. See the official Amazon links above.

That’s really the whole point of this FAQ: Amazon has definitely not made it easy to keep track! You have to check generation by generation, not just dots vs standard. :thinking:

Which echo devices support Zigbee and Matter? - #5 by JDRoberts

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The following Echo devices have built-in smart home hubs that seamlessly connect and control Zigbee smart devices:

  • Echo 4th Generation
  • Echo Plus
  • Echo Show 10 (all models except 1st Generation)
  • Echo Studio

this is what the link says about zigbee, i have an Echo dot 4th Gen, it doesn’t have zigbee, where as the Echo 4th gen has.
I still fail to see where it says the Dots have zigbee.

I mean a small correction to your text,

Blockquote
4th generation Echo dot: yes, Zigbee

the bulb here is bluetooth not zigbee

Thank you. This is all so confusing!

I have corrected the fourth generation echo Dot in my post above as you suggested.

I do have an email from Amazon developer support saying that the 2022 release of the fifth generation Echo Dot did have Zigbee, but the later release did not.

And as noted above, some other community members in the US also said that they had a fifth generation dot that did.

And there are a lot of online reviews from usually careful sites, including PC magazine, saying that the fifth generation dot when first released did have Zigbee.

However… I see that the Amazon website itself has now been updated, and even the (2022 release) listing with the Phillips bulb indicates that it’s a Bluetooth connection, not a Zigbee connection.

So at this point, I honestly don’t know about the dots. As far as the most current model goes, absolutely, no zigbee there. Unless somebody is buying one used on eBay or something, maybe it’s a non-issue now. :man_shrugging:t2:

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