I see the waooz-1 which goes on top of a standard light switch, but does anything exist that goes in the wall and can do the same thing? I’m thinking of a switch that has a manual disconnect switch (like a standard dumb switch) and smart buttons.
Does anything exist like that which works with smartthings?
Smart Bulb Ready: disable the relay and control your smart bulbs through wireless signal without cutting power to them
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No more tape or sticky notes covering your light switches. Gain full control over your smart bulbs. By disabling the internal relay of the Red Series Fan + Light Switch, your lights will maintain their routines. Yeah, it does that too.
Both are popular in the community. Inovelli is a very small company which occasionally has supply chain hiccups, as right now, where they are out of stock of a popular item for a few weeks or even a couple of months. But nice features, excellent prices, a lot of people are willing to wait.
There are some other options as well, and again, some for other countries. But you definitely have more choices these days.
You don’t hook up smart bulbs to dimmer switches which control the current to the bulb.
It’s fine to use smart bulbs with dimmer switches which are communicating by RF (radio frequency) and do NOT directly cut the current to the bulbs, and there are in fact many switches designed for this purpose. Phillips hue has a dimmer switch, as you noted Sylvania has a dimmer switch, and there are others.
In addition, you can use any dimmer switch which smartthings can recognize and create a “virtual three-way“ where the dimmer switch sends its command to the hub and then the hub sends the command to the smart bulb. In these setups it doesn’t matter what protocol the switch and the bulb are using because they are not communicating directly to each other. You can have a zigbee dimmer switch in a virtual three-way with a Z wave smart bulb. Or a zwave dimmer switch in a virtual three-way with a Zigbee smart bulb. Or either in a virtual three-way with a Wi-Fi smart bulb. The only condition is that each of the individual devices has to be able to communicate with the hub. ( or your SmartThings account, in the case of Wi-Fi devices.)
Matching the protocol only matters if you want the switch to be able to control the bulbs even if the hub is not working.
It’s only discontinued in some countries, and even in the US, it’s not officially discontinued, it’s just “out of stock“ and there are still a few retailers that have some inventory.
In Canada, as of this writing Amazon still has some for sale by Amazon, not a third party.
Community FAQs are written by volunteer community members and are not necessarily kept 100% up-to-date at all times but usually catch up eventually.
In addition, that particular FAQ listed a number of other options, including Zooz and the Inovelli, so even if a few items are out of date there may still be valuable information there. You can always ask a question if something doesn’t make sense.
The Zooz zen26 is not a dimmer model. It’s a plain on/off switch. It doesn’t dim anything. If you want to be able to dim from the wall switch then you need a different model.
First rule of home automation: “the model number matters.“
If you want Dimming, you should be looking at the Zooz zen27, which is the one I linked to in my first post above.
@Bmr4life this is the option that means the switch and the bulb don’t have to be the same protocol. So it can dim your Zigbee or WiFi smart bulbs by using the hub as the intermediary.
It shouldn’t if the setting is set to disable the internal dimmer, but I suppose it’s possible if that step is missed. Could also hot wire the load Instead of wiring it to the switch, but that might have some code violation issues.
At that price they cost less than most of the smart buttons, and they’re much more intuitive for guests as far as on and off.
That said, I’m not sure they work for dimming with smartthings. If they do, they probably need custom code. Out of the box, I think they’re two buttons.