Still no update from Smartthings regarding giving blanket access to google and amazon? its been some time now and would love to know if we are moving away from smartthings or waiting!
Yes itās a bit weird, nothing is really changing or improving visibly, yet there are apparently things happening in the background.
This sort of change isnāt something Iād expect to take very long as itās just a filter on the listā¦ Strange!
While I agree it SHOULDNāT take long, if they (errantly) made feature / case assumptions elsewhere in thier code based on not having to care if a device is visible in Amazon / Google or not, they would then have to review the entire branch to see what they break when they start changing itā¦ Every time Iāve been involved in feature requests, this exercise took (MUCH) longer than the actual code change.
Theyāve already said itās coming - but I donāt expect to see it for at least another month (at least). Iād be happy to be wrong.
Theyāve known it was a problem since the release of the New Alexa Skill back in Spring 2020. It should not take 6+ months to add this basic feature back in. Since all there has been is silence in response to requests for status updates, I wouldnāt hold my breath on it ever coming backā¦ Just like the old Contacts featureā¦ and the ability to choose which default attribute to display on the small device viewā¦ and the promise of local processingā¦ and SMS messaging for most of the worldā¦ and SmartLighting in some regionsā¦ and more than 20 roomsā¦ and the ability to buy a hubā¦ and the ability to buy sensorsā¦ and Echo Speaksā¦ and the built-in battery backup of the v2 hubā¦ andā¦ andā¦
SmartThings Givethā¦ and Samsung Taketh Away 
This is the problem with modern technology. Companies have way to much flexibility via software. When I bought smartthings, I did my research and knew I could restrict certain devices. So i bought the dam thing with that impression but smartthings / samsung do not care how or what i feel or felt when i made the purchase and they can change or delete any function at will.
Its like buying a car with automatic windows then 2 years later the manufacturer deciding to make it manual and u have no choice, that would never happen in that world but in this new world , somehow it has become ok or normal for a person to buy something with xyz functions and later lose such functions with zero repercussions to the company. Ok smartthings i want my money back for the hub and the 70 smart devices now since you decided that the function you gave to me when i made the purchase is no longer an option, if u had told me that 2 years ago i would not have bought it. sounds fair, yes ?
Donāt forget your phone presence sensor being an actual device (Remember the Family Tab?) and an App that doesnāt take two minutes to load before you can click on something (Remember Classic?). Oh and ordinary people being able to make custom DTH without needing a PHD in Nerdism oh and easy to find utilities and easily knowing what Mode your system is in. What about knowing what triggered an Event?
Oh, and Apps that used to work like SmartLighing thatās despite being rock solid for years, now is unreliable.
Unfortunately it isnāt this easy. The proper fix requires re-working how permissions are granted at the device level. I canāt go into more detail than that for obvious reasons, but suffice to say itās a big engineering lift that is being actively worked on.
Blake, will we ever get device page access to conected automations ? Please say yes, its a killer at the moment
Trying to find where an automation for a device is located can be a total ball ache, especially if the automation was not labelled well at time of creation, I end up scrolling through automations, then smart lighting, then back again trying to find which automation or smart app is connected to the device I need to adjust or change
It does not show automations from the new app nor does it show scenes.
See, thatās where product management went wrong. The āproper fixā for the moment is to achieve parity with Classic, and meet the needs of your user community and stop hemorrhaging customers. Fix it fast first, fix it proper later. @cjcharles is spot on, itās just a dumb filter on the back end service integration with Amazon.
they may be hemorrhaging power users, but thereās no indication that theyāre hemorrhaging the 95+ percent of their users who arenāt in that group. The people who have bought a smart refrigerator or washing machine or robot vacuum and never used classic.
Classic had 1 million downloads
7,300 reviews
2.9 star rating
Current app has 100 million downloads
577,000 reviews
4.3 star rating
I expect the product managers are pretty happy with those numbers.
Thatās really not a valid comparison (and Iām disinclined to give @SmartThings product management an inch of satisfaction on their competency record) . The Smartthings app merged with the apps that controlled consumer TVs, etc. These are not true home automation aficionados downloading this app. Theyāre couch control jockeys (although that sounds a bit like me, too). 
Yes, thatās the point. The target audience for the current app isnāt the 30,000 or so who might have more than 15 home automation devices. Itās the hundred million with Samsung products that use the same app.
Iām not saying itās a good thing that theyāve abandoned parity with the classic app, Iām just saying it will require a different argument than losing the kind of hub customers who would consider Hubitat as a replacement. There just arenāt enough of us to matter to the business model.
I think the motivation was to merge the home control app with the native Samsung phoneās device management integration (if you have a Galaxy phone) so you can just swipe down, and the home control functions are always there. Making it more tightly integrated with the phone UI is a benefit. However, if you look at the updates to new App, they arenāt (needing to) doing much with TV, bluetooth devices, etc. Itās all about smart home integration features. So, I think the bottom of the market will be enticed upward toward home automation. Which is more power to us.
What is that?
If those 100 million users knew what us 30k āpower usersā were used to in the classic app Iām sure more would happen in development. I donāt have any smart appliances but do have lights cameras and switches that are more important to me than knowing my wash is done. All I want for Christmas is mobile presence to work like it did in classic. Is that too much to ask Santa?
Cannot find that on Galaxy S20.
I donāt have the s20 but it should be the same.
- Swipe down from the top as if you are viewing your notifications.
- Swipe down again to open quick panel.
- Touch the 3 vertical dots in the top right.
- Select quick panel layout
- Toggle on show media and devices.