Sound notification (Alexa)

YES! Version 3 released today… and we are already planning version 4!!!

I’m taking notes this time Bobby!

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@SBDOBRESCU, I was going to attach an energy monitor plug to the washer, but since I don’t really expect to ever actually need to control the plug, I’ve recently decided to get a “learning” HEM since I was planning to buy an HEM anyway. So the “issues” has really been just researching and finding something with real usage data and not BS marketing speak.

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Do you have access to a tablet or always on laptop/pc? You could simply run VLC or Kodi as DLNA receivers/client. You could then output from that device to Alexa or other Bluetooth receiver.

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Ah, yeah I have my washer hooked into the cheap Iris outlet. Been working super well for ever and a day. What is a learning HEM. Was thinking to get another Aeon HEM and hook it to my dryer.

So basically, there are new types of HEMs being released now that actually monitor energy fluctuations and tell you what kind of appliance it’s likely to be. So basically, it’d attach to your main power line and monitor every device in the house based on an energy signature.

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Does the AVR have to be a Denon?

I think there are several handlers out there, what do you have?

There is a caveat to using your AVR as tts relay, which is the reason I am not using it now. That is, if you are watching something is switching to your media server input and disrupts your other audio. Been too busy with Echosistant to find a solution for that, yet…

Pioneers AVR

When I log into https://graph.api.smartthings.com
I get this screen instead of the one that has a setting option. I am trying to do the GitHub intergration.

Click enable github, top right, assuming you have a github account…

Okay, thanks!!!

Thanks for your help. I was able to complete the integration process. When I try to install the app on my mobile device, and when tapping marketplace, I do not have a tab called My Apps and EchoSistant is no where to be found. Any suggestions?

Make sure that in the ide you click on save and then click on publish. A drop down shows up that says for me. Click on that. A green bar will show across the top of the screen saying it was successful.

Then go to the smartapp, click on marketplace.
Make sure you tap on smartapps at the top of the screen. Scroll to the bottom and tap on my apps.
That’s where you find the app the first time.

I think, I need to start over.

Just follow the directions carefully… It is a bit of setup process, but well worth it.

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Hi everyone,

@MEarly made a great post of options but I am looking for a way for SmartThings (ST) to talk directly to Echo/Alexa for auditory announcements/notifications. Was something like that there? I couldn’t see it.

Is there no way to do it without third party software or hardware?

I tire of learning and forever caring for Yet Another App, or phone/PC/IFTTT/whatever as middle man. All my smart home and smart phone junk is such a leaning tower of cards at this point. Once a month one thing or another mysteriously stops working for god knows what reason. When it breaks, Android points to Liftmaster who points to Tasker who points to ST… pfft. I really want to cut out every middle man that I can.

All I want is ST to talk to Alexa.

So

Can ST talk directly to Alexa somehow?

Perhaps with a smartapp added to one or the other.

Anyone know a way?

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So, for whatever short-sighted reason, Amazon didn’t foresee the need to design Alexa around being a notification/status device in the first two iterations. I think it was designed without the smart home (as we know it) in mind. We want Alexa to be the voice of our homes, when the truth is Alexa is just a glorified remote control, screen reader, Amazon media delivery device and Bluetooth (quasi) transceiver. She’s not “smart”.

Smartthings, despite the push and sms notifications, doesn’t function well on its own as a notification service either. There’s a huge gap that has to be filled by 3rd-party apps and services. Why? The hell if I know.

We are currently forced to add layers (which is frequently the cast with any highly customizable technological application) because no one device/service does it all. We are indeed building a smart home of cards, but, if you think about the typical computer, it is built the same way. No one component does everything that you want. Therefore, by design, there’s a system of delegation that hands off work to components based on their functionality.

This is the main reason I have the tablets (cheaper than a Sonos implementation, though I would love to have whole-house audio) that receive the notifications and broadcast them via speaker or simply back to my Echo which is attached to a speaker.

Because the Bluetooth connection usually drops when just using LANnouncer, I’ve also installed Shouter as a notification reader, sense all tablets in my home also receive push notifications from ST. This sometimes leads to redundant messages (“Garage door open” from LANnouncer, followed by “Smartthings Garage door open” from Shouter) due to my lazy text, sometimes the additional layer actually improves the messaging: “Eden mode has changed from Day to Night” from BigTalker->LANnouncer, followed by “Smartthings Performing set Night mode as requested” from Shouter reading the push notification.

I think many teams are simply trying to get the basics down. They are merely trying to control things correctly. Despite that we see a comprehensive and reliable notification system as being something “basic”, they technology simply hasn’t caught up to our needs and real-world application. And, despite the misnomer, most aren’t “smart”.

This has actually caused me to start looking into other assistant AI (Aido, Kuri, Zenbo, Buddy, LG Hub Robot, etc) that can do things like identify users by voice, monitor multiple communication channels, monitor device status changes and proactively notify. The biggest problem is that they probably won’t play well with my existing system, and some want to replace ST as my hub.

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Oh wait, I’m not sure I directly answered your questions with my ranting.

ST cannot currently directly control Alexa to speak a notification.

There are no Smartapps that I know that can force Alexa to speak other than perhaps some TTS interface that is converted to “voice” and fed into Alexa’s engine. Maybe EchoSistant can do this? @bamarayne?

All of my workarounds simply use the Echo as a Bluetooth receiver and use the TTS engine of the device that receives the notification from ST. So the voice of my home is not Alexa’s voice.

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Thanks MEarly! At least I know I’m not missing anything, and that is important, too. I also hope Alexa can come to support direct messaging some day.

It’s very internet connected AND a fine loudspeaker, right in the center of my house already, that I paid top dollar for! Sigh.

The Bluetooth solutions don’t appeal to me because it should work whether I’m here or not (for family) and whether my phone is working or not. Said another way, I just want Alexa to work. Not Alexa + some other tricky connection. Look how you need not one app not two, but two apps plus additional hardware, wow.

But now at least I know I’m not missing anything. I’ll look into the other options. They all seem to require more hardware or more software or a weak link (like proximity/bluetooth). Maybe I’ll just wait another year or three. Maybe see Google Home obsolete Alexa, hehe.

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