SmartThings vs Hubitat - please share your experience!

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Well I purchased a Hubitat hub yesterday from vesternet, I’ve got fed up of my door locks being slow and crap, I will start with moving the Z-Wave network to hubitat straight away, then slowly move zigbee and other devices. Will keep smartthings for some stuff but I expect to turn off zigbee and Z-Wave before September

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Best move I made was going to Hubitat. Took about 4 days total to move 50 devices over. First thing wife said, wow the lights are way faster now. Presence just works (broke for us in the last app update and its been 2 weeks already and still not fixed even showing ST the detailed information on how to break it) I hated to loose ActionTiles but the dashboard is not so bad in Hubitat and actually configures nicely once you dig into it. Its not as user friendly IMO with devices and setting up certain things but it works just fine. Day 5 into it and 2 small devices left and now that I have verified things are working as they should be I’ve just forgot about it

My favorite part is doing everything on the PC. No more smart phone configuration!

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SharpTools works with Hubitat as well as SmartThings and has a free tier so you can try it and see how your family likes it. :sunglasses:

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Actually love this feature with Hubitat. Also - seeing Echo Speaks much faster and the ‘Amazon Echo Skill’ has been much friendlier than the SmartThings Classic version. I did use HubConnect 1.64 to keep ActionTiles running and it works, but not ideal. There was discussion of ActionTiles natively running on Hubitat at some point. About two weeks into the switch and really haven’t found anything I can not do on Hubitat. SMS (North America) and Email is missing natively, but with webCoRE you get email back and I built an adapter and piston to send SMS over to the SmartThings hub as a workaround.

Having the Hubitat Hub as the ‘backoffice’ heavy automation with SmartThings as the ‘if it still working when you need something bells and whistles’ seems to be the new normal.

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Take a look at SharpTools for the dashboard. I have a number of them for different purposes. Pretty sweet!

EDIT: Saw JD’s post after I posted, so just consider this a +1, lol.

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+1 for sharptools.

Works ace under hubitat.

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I am also a recent convert to Hubitat. Couldn’t be happier!

My favorite part so far was offloading all my NodeJS from my server onto the hub. Harmony, Google home, Google Cast, lutron, Amazon Eco.

I’ve been Impressed what such a tiny hub can do.

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I see more & more people moving to hubitat. But hubitat seems more.xomplex then smartthings.

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It is. Different target audiences. But right at the moment it’s likely that the people who are feeling the most frustration with smartthings are power users who have been using complex custom code, so most of them will probably be comfortable with the level of technical skill that Hubitat requires. Same as Home Assistant.

If you want more of a plug and play environment and you want to use most (but not all) of the same zigbee and Z wave devices that you used with smartthings then Abode would probably be a better candidate. But their rules engine is much simpler than what you can do with smartthings.

To go back to Hubitat for a minute, if you want something more visual than rule machine, you can also look at sharptools. They have a free tier which lets you try it out to see if it will work for you. It also works with smartthings if you want to Start out learning it with a system you’re familiar with. :blush:

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Having webcore work in Hubitat is what finat convinced me to switch, easy to import between webcore instances. Plus pistons run locally.

Honestly I found it much easier to add devices and apps than st. I was expecting a crude raw interface but it’s much more polished than I expected, while still providing almost everything a power user wants. You can actually see what is happening, no mysterious spinning blue circle hiding back end activity…

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Reading all these posts here and elsewhere, the frustration created, the chaotic approach taken made me decide to switch to Hubitat. Thank you Smartthings for the past years but for me your decisions go beyond being loyal to your solution. Hope that one day you will sort out all of the challenges you have today to delight your customers ince again as you did in the past.

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my original post got hidden because it was apparently in violation of something.

so let’s keep this simple.

  1. smartthings used to be awesome. amazing introduction to home automation which began with the simple need to make a few xmas lights light up on motion and the love of anything a bit techy.

  2. the support I gained in here was nothing short of superb. The staff and the developers here deserve far more praise than they get.

  3. My system grew as did my understanding, culminating in smart heating, propane powered hot tub, various security devices etc.

  4. As the updates came, the functionality rapidly diminished. lights quit working properly, cloud outages became more frequent, and don’t get me started on the new app and / or migration.

  5. I shelled out for a hubitat hub - for the first time in around 4 years, the wife actually loves this stuff, because “it just works”.

  6. I foresee this platform dying. it’s not what it used to be, more like an alpha product.

  7. I’m out. This is probably my last post here. Hubitat is amazing - it’s doing everything I did before and so much more. Looks like my ST hub is getting decommissioned, unless I feel like keeping it for switchbot. Which is unlikely.

Thanks, and goodbye. It’s a shame such a fantastic product has been wrecked by the powers that be.

= )

/ exits

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