There won’t be compatible Bluetooth devices at launch. And yes the radio will be activated later with an update.
We’re big fans for the Flic, as well. I see locks, beacons, and those being in the first group of certified devices.
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Don’t forget Bluetooth toothbrushes!
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What is the expected range of BT? Depending on the chip I have seen everything from a few yards to a hundred meters.
I haven’t seen that number yet but I’ll check with our hardware team.
Here is a list of devices that are Bluetooth Smart ready:
http://www.bluetooth.com/Pages/Bluetooth-Smart-Devices-List.aspx#SmartReady
Will hub v2 support multiple hubs on the same location / IP network? Will hub v1 ever support this too?
Will hub v2 support a hub v1 on the same location / IP network?
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The original Bluetooth has a range of about 10 meters.
Bluetooth Smart (same thing as Bluetooth Low Energy) has a much bigger range, probably closer to 70 meters, but like all RF protocols is subject to interference and signal drop off, which may reduce the practical range depending on local conditions.
http://www.bluetooth.com/Pages/low-energy-tech-info.aspx
Bluetooth mesh, which was just approved conceptually a few months ago, is mesh, which theoretically allows for much longer coverage through relays, is still so new hardly anything supports it and it’s not clear how fragile it will be.
A single floor of a typical American house would probably get full coverage from a Bluetooth smart transmitter centrally located, again depending on local conditions.
A cement house as is common in parts of Asia might only get clear coverage in one room.
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@ajpri I understand that you are looking to spend your money wisely. First and most important step with HA is DO NOT PURCHASE EVERYTHING AT ONCE. Instead take small steps developing areas at a time, and working to ensure stability while determining what works for you and what doesn’t.
I learned early on that what I had in mind simply did not work for the house as a whole. So, I adjusted and changed the direction of the HA system to something that Compliments my life and schedule.
Each person’s home is different. I really do suggest that you take small steps and build up your HA system slowly and verify each step is working as intended for you.
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The Bluetooth organization is really bad at naming things.
“Bluetooth Smart Ready” means a device, typically a phone or a tablet, that is capable of communicating with both classic Bluetooth and BLE devices.
While a “Bluetooth Smart” device is the end device (like headphones, a sensor, or that toothbrush) that communicates only by BLE.
Bluetooth Smart products
The next generation of super energy-efficient Bluetooth products that send information to Bluetooth Smart Ready products.
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Did you buy one, @tyler!
They are on sale!
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So… will we one day be able to trigger events when we start brushing our teeth? 
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Great you can have kids earn TV time based of brushing teeth. Hopefully they will not use it to clean the toilet.
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Sure. This is a perfect example of “My use case is not your use case.” Different people will have different reasons for using these kinds of devices. Smartthings becomes a platform to let people set up the solutions that are of value to them.
Using just the Bluetooth toothbrush as an example, many dentists surveyed do like the idea. There are three different specific use cases where they actually make a lot of sense.
- people who know what they should be doing for tooth and gum health, but just don’t quite do it, and can be motivated by monitoring and medal systems.
This applies to all kinds of good habits whether it’s exercising regularly, or paying bills, or, yes, brushing teeth. There are people who do find that they brush more often, or more diligently, when they get a gold star at the end of it. Nothing wrong with that. This appears to be a large percentage of the target market for the Bluetooth toothbrush.
Two) people who have cognitive or physical issues which cause them to brush incorrectly, or to skip brushing. For example, some people on the autism spectrum, and some people in the early stages of dementia, do brush too hard, and actually cause gum damage. They may well be helped by monitoring systems which alert them when too much pressure is being applied. This is the kind of thing which is very difficult to do without high tech pressure sensors. I also personally know quadriplegics who need assistance brushing their teeth, and a toothbrush which would alert the person doing the brushing that too much pressure is being applied could be really helpful. 
Three) The third use case would be for medical smart houses where you want to unobtrusively do wellness checks on a person just to make sure that they’re out of bed and doing their personal care routines. We’ve talked about these in the past, everything from noting if the person Weighed themselves in the morning, or took a shower, or opened the refrigerator. Toothbrushing would be another good indicator that the person was up and doing normal routines. 
For any of these three situations, the system might be set up to trigger events when the toothbrushing was done, even if it’s only to make a notation in a log.
But if you want your lights to flash blue and gold when you meet your personal toothbrushing goals, why not? It’s the same concept as having them flash, or music play, when you meet your exercise goals for the day.
So the first example is about motivation, the second is about monitoring the brushing activity itself, and the third is about using the absence of brushing activity as a warning indicator to a third party that something might be wrong.
Doesn’t mean I’m going to rush out and buy $160 Bluetooth toothbrush for myself, but “all home automation is local.” I could certainly see people who would find the gadget useful–including the ability to trigger other events.
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4 out of 5 dentists recommend Bluetooth?
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I’d be ok with buying mine a second bluetooth toothbrush if it meant he’d clean the toilets. =)
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As a Brit, I’d actually prefer it if ‘many dentists’ just liked the idea of putting the right amount of fluoride in the toothpaste here instead of putting it in the water but that’s another story…
I like how this thread now has a ‘solution’… I don’t see any V2 hub yet so we have no ‘solution’ yet 
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I guess the solution is “Wait for official announcement.” 
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A post was merged into an existing topic: Philips Hue Lux Device?
Use case:
Start brushing, good morning hello home triggers… 
if after sunset, Good night triggers! They typically have four modes and well we have button controller app.
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Naah… 5 out of 5 dentists for yellow tooth! darn, we started with V2 to oral hygiene… 
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