All zwave chip generations are backwards-compatible. It’s part of the standard. You don’t get necessarily get all the new features of the newest device, but you do get basic on/off and reporting. I run several Z wave plus devices with the generation one smartthings hub that is classic zwave, not zwave plus.
That said, the newest Aeon multisensor, the multisensor six, has proven to be difficult to run with smartthings. There is a community developed device handler which improves things, but not everything.
There is a discussion topic on that particular device, and smartthings staff have confirmed that they are working on an official device handler for it. But no specific timeline yet.
So that particular device should work with even the V one hub eventually. And any zwave plus device should be able to operate at a level of basic functionality with the Z wave classic v1 hub.
As to the future, or advanced features on any Zwave plus device (like over the air firmware update), we’ll just have to wait and see.
The only bulbs I am aware of that the manufacturer says will work as ZHA repeaters are the Osram Lightify. And that’s only specific manufacturing runs, some of them were shipped as ZLL instead.
Noted @pstuart what about Hue bulbs?.. I ave a 220V pack from Hongkong, but I can confirm US kit works on 220V too. However only Hue can handle 220V. LUX cannot.
“All home automation is local.” I think it just depends on the set up, it’s certainly something that can be considered.
I know several people successfully using the linear zwave bulbs as zwave repeaters to get a signal down basement stairs. They can be a really good option for that kind of set up.
I also know one person using a zwave bulb in an overhead kitchen fixture to improve reception in a small kitchen with a lot of big metal appliances.
And we have had community members report that they are using Osram Lightify bulbs as zigbee ZHA repeaters. I could see that being a particularly good option for some outbuilding set ups where there was a sheltered light fixture, but no plugs. Just to give you that extra bounce point to then get a signal through a window.
I agree that most of the time a wired switch or mains powered plug-in is likely to be a more reliable and useful repeater. But there are some situations where a bulb might be useful.
Ben has stated that even the newer version of the v1 hub has z-wave plus, So I think that it would be Extremely unlikely that they would downgrade hardware. IMO you can count on v2 having Z-wave plus on board.
Guys, I am sure things will be much better with the new v2. I don’t think ST is obliged to give any freebies or anything as such. It’s nice of them to throw in something for the “loyal” customers. If we get a power outlet or anything at all it is ok or it may be not what we expected. We should be focusing more on what we get in terms of the v2. A highly improved experience with v2 will be priceless and it’s all that matters. Yes, I got the pre-order deal but cannot even order it due to lack of funds (still paying for my medical bills for heart surgery) and believe me I am not sour at all. Just believe and we will be fine. I am sure @ben@april and the team did what was feasible.
Agreed. Think we (loyal customers) got the shaft on this one. They messed up and are unwilling to offer at least the same offer as before says alot about where this company is going.
Your right they didn’t have to make an offer but they did and messed it up. Then the second offer feels to me like a half hearted offer. Just feel unappreciated by the Smartthings team
Agreed, my friend! If I was to pre-order a “loyal” discounted kit, I would have hoped for a sample of each of the ST newer generation devices in the kit. But alas it is not the case! I guess that they have a reason! On a brighter side, you have one extra zigbee repeater.:.
This was my thought to @pstuart! I already have a smart plug from the PEQ sale and use that as a repeater. My hub is at the front of my house and my shed in the backyard does not reach, a smart plug plugged in by the back door works great for this reason.
Looking forward to the new hub most of all and the smart plug is a great added bonus! Thanks SmartThings!
That’s the right attitude for a good recovery from heart surgery Ron. Wish you all the best as you recuperate.
From me, this episode has left a bitter taste. I remind myself that we’re dealing with corporate goliath Samsung and not supporting a precarious startup any more.
what about Hue bulbs?.. I ave a 220V pack from Hongkong, but I can confirm US kit works on 220V too. However only Hue can handle 220V. LUX cannot.
