Samsung’s been selling one for a year or so. It can mirror a Galaxy. But they usually talk about having a cooking show on it, which isn’t very interesting. I think a home automation dashboard would make a lot of sense.
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This is because the hardware component won’t be paid for upfront, or in some cases, not paid for at all.
Instead, connected devices will become things we use, not own. OEMs will switch to less traditional business models such as “ad supported/freemium”, “pay-as-you-go”, “subscription”, and “affiliate” models, so the big money will be made from service, not the hardware itself.
As a consumer, I like what Samsung is preaching but let’s get real. Samsung is run by smart people, and they want their share of the IOT cake, so are likely to emulate Nest and HomeKit. They know that people won’t use multiple apps to operate the smart home, and hardware OEMs will build products optimized for no more than three proprietary standards. If Samsung wants to become one of those standards they must raise their game. Others worth keeping an eye on include Motorola’s Hubble, GE’s Wink, Belkin’s WeMo, and Staples’ Connect.
In Samsung’s favour, they are starting to piece together various components in a very shrewd manner. The company already operates Samsung Smart Home, and recently acquired SmartThings. Also Tizen, an open operating system built from the ground up to address the needs of the mobile and connected device ecosystem, is taking shape. Samsung, recently announced a Tizen-powered “Android killer” called the “Z”, so maybe they could give both Apple and Google a run for their money.
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Samsung is only preaching the gospel of openness because they have very little to lose right now. Their recent acquisition of SmartThings is a wise hedge, and could enable them to create a viable alternative to the Californian duo [Apple & Google], especially if they can use it as a Trojan horse to build an ecosystem that they control. In addition to owning and controlling a platform, you also need to have one further component - Artificial Intelligence (A.I.). In fact, A.I. could become the deciding factor.
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tgauchat
(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy)
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Well… apparently we can expect a lot, though other executive is involved…
The company is reassigning about 500 engineers from its mobile phone division to Internet-connected devices, according to two people familiar with the moves who weren’t authorized to discuss them. In August the company paid about $200 million for SmartThings, a startup that makes remote-control apps for household devices. In October, Samsung said it will build a $15 billion plant in South Korea to make advanced chips for Internet-connected appliances. The push is one of the first major initiatives of Vice Chairman Lee Jae Yong
(NB: Once again… $15 BILLION vs. $200 million)
Here is Samsung running an Oakland, CA home pre-SmartThings, but article mentions ST.
This doesn’t seem right with some of the recent changes. If you are experiencing this I suggest sending a note to support. You can mention I “sent you”.
Local processing is a KEY feature from both consumer-facing and operation reasons. Hub v1doesn’t have the processing power to do it. Simple as that. Put the tin hats down
I am kinda weary of sending notes to support, but I can relate to you that yesterday at this time, it took so long to bring up the SIM within a SmartApp that was less than 40 lines of code and subscribing only to a mode change, that I just gave up and closed the browser.
Pretty sure it will work for the fellow I wrote it for, but I didn’t have the patience to test it.
Humm… fully functional/supported common device types, integrate the most popular branded garage door openers, an affordable functional multi-button hand and wall-mounted remote, and a better/faster Web interface… or… Lights/devices that turn on/off 10-50 microseconds faster with a battery backup to support a few hours of operation on throwaway batteries to run a majority of devices that require power themselves to run?
I’m just saying the timing doesn’t seem right… Put out a survey or something, let’s really see what the demands are… Give us 6 months of dedicated support to clean up what we have, then push a better/smarter v2 with even greater capabilities before the end of the year…
Must be unforseen or unfortold pressure to release as soon as possible and dual support 2 inferior products? It’s evident v1 support will have to be phased out immediately, since there is zero plan to produce v1 and v2 simultaneously…
tgauchat
(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy)
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No snark intended, but respectfully: How much more effort does it take to send a note to Support@ than posting it to Community? Or both? Only a magnitude of 2x, right?
But, of course, perhaps I’m missing the point – if Support@ is not yielding any results, or ends up requiring an extensive interactive exchange with the Support contact(s), then, understood.
Would it be helpful to Community if Support@, through some mechanism, maybe even with @Mentions / @Callouts and/or some proactive Forum watching, would “automatically” (i.e., proactively) inject themselves into issues more frequently?
I used to make it my job to monitor and report on their system; every time I had to wait 40 seconds for the mobile app to load, or every time I had to wait 30 seconds for 30 lines of script to compile and save; or twice that to install it in the SIM, or when it took 10-20 seconds for an event to trigger an action, or when some notifications went AWOL, or when schedules are late (or don’t fire at all). In these instances what I got back from support is something like “Still happening? I see some discussion in a chat thread about a potential slowdown last night but it may have cleared before we were able to take any action” or “You’re right – we had an incident last night related to a slowdown of SmartApp processing. If you’re still running into issues, just let me know and we’ll investigate for you”.
I was trying to be helpful, and initially I don’t think anyone had more enthusiasm for SmartThings than I did. Of course that was before I succumbed to the realization that this behavior is the status quo. There is no point to reporting the status quo. But when someone comes out publicly with a remark like ‘the IDE shouldn’t be unusably slow anymore’, I will point out that it is.
To be clear, the IDE has been unusable every time I have opened it for as far back as I can remember. @Ben, do you even use it? If so, how can you not notice it? If I sat one of our engineers behind a machine running this thing and it took them the better part of a minute to compile 50 lines of code, and another one to launch it into the debugger, it would be a stain on the far wall within a matter of minutes.
Several posters mentioned that support actually advised them to seek answers on the Forums. Support can open a ticket and maybe solve configuration issue or guide you through app setup, but in my experience it’s easier to get attention of ST developers here than through support. Just my observation.
I’ve never had luck getting their attention either of those ways. I usually just try to wait for the next dev call and bring things up then.
tgauchat
(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy)
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That’s fine advice until you enter an infinite loop .
As a programmer, that’s easy to avoid: Support@ should still open a ticket and should follow up to see that the Customer’s issue was resolved or at least linked to a “Known Issues” list.
Community Members are a subset of Customers…
tgauchat
(ActionTiles.com co-founder Terry @ActionTiles; GitHub: @cosmicpuppy)
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Not yet. On the other hand, at least with my method, we get a youtube video of a couple ST employees acting like they understand the issue, at least one acted interested, and someone saying that it’s a good idea.
I was so planning and looking forward to go tomorrow for the NY meet but now I feel I would much rather spend the time (took second half off) just relaxing… NY is just 35 minutes train ride and the station 5 minutes from my place. What’s the point?
Seems like a lot of silence wben direct questions are asked during the dev calls. This actually is what scares me, I see community folks blowing their minds, the guys you would think should know the answer and the best you can get is a moment of silence. As a neutral party listening in, it’s quite aquakward to say the least.
All this put together has led me to my general concensus that we are not ready for v2, we just don’t have solid structure in place to resolve basic v1 issues, so how are we going to move forward with the next version?
My experience with support regarding coding for the platform is that there is none; come here. As for unexpected behavior, that pretty much eventually just turns into silence.
The support is wonderful when they have an answer; but pretty much goes off into the weeds when they don’t.
Thanks Ben. I did reach out to support before I posted this. They were able to delete the somehow duplicated device types after about a day. They mentioned “we’ve seen this pop up a few times recently, and normally the issue resolves itself within a day or so (seems to be a caching issue).”
So it seems that others are experiencing it as well.