Samsung TV Smarthings Hubs Jan 2025

Is anyone aware of a list of current Samsungs TVs that have the ST hub built in? The samsung website’s link is broken. BTW I’m in the US and primarily looking at 75" models.

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These are all the 75" ones that I found support a ST hub using both built-in and dongle support.

- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 4K QNX1D (QN75QNX1DAF / QN75QNX1DAFXZA)
- 75” Class QLED 4K QE1D (QN75QE1DAF / QN75QE1DAFXZA)
- 75" Class The Frame QLED 4K LS03D (QN75LS03DAF / QN75LS03DAFXZA)
- 77" Class OLED S90D (QN77S90DAF / QN77S90DAFXZA)
- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 4K QN90D (QN75QN90DAF / QN75QN90DAFXZA)
- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 8K QN900D (QN75QN900DF / QN75QN900DFXZA) (Not clear if Zigbee/Thread built-in)
- 75" Class Crystal UHD DU7200 (UN75DU7200F / UN75DU7200FXZA) (Dongle Support)
- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 8K QN800D (QN75QN800DF / QN75QN800DFXZA)
- 75" Class The Terrace Full Sun Samsung Neo QLED 4K LST9D (QN75LST9DAF / QN75LST9DAFXZA) (Not clear if Zigbee/Thread built-in)
- 75" Class The Terrace Partial Sun Samsung Neo QLED 4K LST7D (QN75LST7DAF / QN75LST7DAFXZA) (Not clear if Zigbee/Thread built-in)
- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 4K QN85D (QN75QN85DBF / QN75QN85DBFXZA)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q80D (QN75Q80DAF / QN75Q80DAFXZA)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q70D (QN75Q70DAF / QN75Q70DAFXZA)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q60D (QN75Q60DAF / QN75Q60DAFXZA)
- 75" Class Crystal UHD DU8000 (UN75DU8000F / UN75DU8000FXZA) (Dongle Support)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q80C (QN75Q80CAF / QN75Q80CAFXZA)
- 75" Class The Terrace Full Sun QLED 4K LST9T (2021) (QN75LST9TAF / QN75LST9TAFXZA) (Not if Dongle is supported)
- 75" Class Crystal UHD DU6900 (UN75DU6900F / UN75DU6900FXZA) (Dongle Support)
- 77" Class OLED S85D (QN77S85DAE / QN77S85DAEXZA)
- 75" Class QN800C Samsung Neo QLED 8K Smart TV (2023) (QN75QN800CF / QN75QN800CFXZA)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q60C (QN75Q60CAF / QN75Q60CAFXZA)
- 75" Class Crystal UHD CU8000 (UN75CU8000F / UN75CU8000FXZA) (Dongle Support)
- 75" Class QN85C Samsung Neo QLED 4K Smart TV (2023) (QN75QN85CAF / QN75QN85CAFXZA)
- 75" Class QLED 4K Q70C (QN75Q70CAF / QN75Q70CAFXZA) - 75" Class Crystal UHD CU7000 (UN75CU7000F / UN75CU7000FXZA) (Dongle Support)

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How many watts are these TVs when just doing hub work?
My SmartThings Hub V3 is 3W, my Sony TV and Soundbar are 17W on standby so go off with a SmartThings outlet routine at night.

Thanks for the extensive list!

I was wondering the same for both Samsung and other alternatives so I 've tried to find the energy guide/Energy Star info for each, given how much power TVs use and how much it could be on. I currently use a smart plug as my current TV (smart, but old) uses 14 W at night and I pay high electric rates. I saw some with standby values as low as 0.3 W, which seems great (probably no hub). Samsung has models on Energy Star, but their projected consumption (for the same size screen) seemed higher than the ones I was looking at. There was one Sony around 543 W (high, but cost not that high…), and several at around 160 kWh/year. The energy star ones were around 300 -500 kWh/year… There must be a different class that I’m not clear about.

I manually cross checked the list and there are some hits on both lists:

- 75" Class QN85C Samsung Neo QLED 4K Smart TV (2023) (QN75QN85CAF / QN75QN85CAFXZA) [173 kWh]

77" Class OLED S85D (QN77S85DAE / QN77S85DAEXZA) [283 kWh]

- 77" Class OLED S90D (QN77S90DAF / QN77S90DAFXZA) [298 kWh]

- 75" Class Samsung Neo QLED 4K QN90D (QN75QN90DAF / QN75QN90DAFXZA) [308 kWh]

Now I can see how much over my budget they are…

Do the same at both of my places. I just bought a new Samsung TV–haven’t unboxed it yet, as I’m at the other location–and plan to do the same there. At that location, I’ve already replaced the SmartThings hub anyway, but I wouldn’t want the TV to be a hub anyway. What if I chose a different brand for the eventual replacement? YMMV, of course…

or the hub gets updated…

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I did some investigation and learned that the older energy guide numbers (pre 2024) are not too accurate. Newer energy guide and Energy start are more robust though. The newer lower energy TVs have low standby losses (.3 W) vs my 14 W now!

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I bit the bullet (and damaged my budget) but now have a new Samsung QN75QN90DD TV. It looks great and now I’m trying to fully integrate into ST. Unlike other drivers, the TV driver seems to have lots of extra functionality, but the standard things work differently: It reports energy via the life app, but the actual power is not available as a routine trigger. Have you experienced this
as well? I’ve set up the light sensing to use the higher power brighter mod in the day and eco mode at night. I’ve so far not used the sound sensor. Curios if you’ve leveraged the other functions that it can do such as setting source, screen and sound modes? For now, I’m sticking with my smart outlet so I can turn the power draw off at night.

Unfortunately, that is one of the frustrating things about the ST platform and app. There may be lots of capabilities that are defined in the profile for viewing or manipulating on the device card. However, those capabilities may not be exposed in the automations section of the profile. What gets exposed is up to the creator/maintainer of the device and its profile. For example, my TV only exposes On/Off, On, Off, or Source as a trigger for Routines:

However, there are many capabilities that are available, for example the Mute Status:

────────────────────────────────────
 #   Id                             
────────────────────────────────────
 1   audioMute                      
 2   audioVolume                    
 3   custom.accessibility           
 4   custom.disabledCapabilities    
 5   custom.error                   
────────────────────────────────────
 6   custom.launchapp               
 7   custom.picturemode             
 8   custom.recording               
 9   custom.soundmode               
 10  custom.tvsearch                
────────────────────────────────────
 11  execute                        
 12  mediaInputSource               
 13  mediaPlayback                  
 14  mediaTrackControl              
 15  ocf                            
────────────────────────────────────
 16  refresh                        
 17  samsungvd.ambient              
 18  samsungvd.ambient18            
 19  samsungvd.ambientContent       
 20  samsungvd.deviceCategory       
────────────────────────────────────
 21  samsungvd.firmwareVersion      
 22  samsungvd.mediaInputSource     
 23  samsungvd.remoteControl        
 24  samsungvd.supportsPowerOnByOcf 
 25  sec.diagnosticsInformation     
────────────────────────────────────
 26  switch                         
 27  tvChannel                      
────────────────────────────────────
? Select a capability. 1
──────────────────────
 Attribute  Value     
 mute       "unmuted" 
──────────────────────

And in 3rd party rules engines like sharptools.io, you can actually use those as triggers and conditions:

I actually use SharpTools to turn off/on the icemaker on my fridge based on our home/away status.

For hub based devices that use Edge drivers, you have the option of customizing the Automations section of the profile by creating a custom profile and updating the driver source to handle the additional capablities, if necessary, and thereby creating a custom driver. Unfortunately, for devices like TVs, refrigerators, etc, they don’t rely on a hub or Edge drivers and the selection of the profile and its make up is completely at the discretion of the entity that supports the device.

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This is helpful- I did not know that this info is available in SharpTools, but not the appliance driver. You would think Samsung would do really well on their own appliance! Looking at your list it looks like power consumption is not one of those (or is it available separately?), so what I need to do is swap out my current smart plug (EVE) which reports power and energy to Life with a meter that reports power and energy that I can use for control, but will not report redundant energy to ST life? Is this capability via the freebie level of SmartTools or the or the premimum level?

My TV is quite old so it could be that it just didn’t have the capability to report its energy consumption.

As for swapping out your Eve plug, if you can get energy reporting from the device that you can take action on in Sharp Tools, that sounds like a good option.

AFAIK, there is no premium level of ST available to end consumers.