Conditions: motion inactive [any], presence sensors not present [all]
Rule: motion inactive AND presence sensors not present [all]
Action for true: delay these actions 60 minutes: [whatever] with cancel
Action for false: [none]
Each time motion goes inactive the rule is evaluated, and if all of the presence sensors are gone, it starts the 60 minute timer. Should a presence return, or motion occur prior to the clock running out, it is cancelled. Repeats until no motion and no presence for 60 minutes.
Condition 1: Presence Sensor(s) not present
Condition 2: Motion {your sensor} inactive
Define the Rule: Condition 1 AND Condition 2
Select Actions for True: Turn On Or Off These Switches After a Delay, Pending Cancellation: select your switch {Tie arming your Fire Alarm to a virtual switch for this}, Turn ON after the delay, Minutes of delay: 60
Strange thing happening. I created three rules for three pairs of lights to track dimmer events.
The two pair of GE bulbs work great, almost no lag between the master and slave. The third pair is cree and wonât follow unless I hit refresh on the master.
Iâve recreated the rule twice as well as creating the same thing with a conditional trigger and it just wonât work.
Any ideas? Havenât done anything in the IDE yet but this seemed so simpleâŚ
This custom dimmer looks like a good framework to store color information. If I have time I woll play around with it. On a side note all my rules with an enerwave sc7 give me the dreaded âYou are not authorizedâŚâ error. Happened literally overnight. Everything else works, including the sc7 smartapp. Weird!
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For the water heater rule, I think the answer is Yes (for the wake Android screen rule that was also failing earlier today, there is no time of day involved).
I have three rules for my water heater (Iâll merge them someday if possible)âŚ
HomeDay
Set to ### if any of these people are present between this time in the morning and that time at night
HomeNight
Set to ### if any of these people are present between this time at night and that time in the morning
Away
Set to ### if nobody is present (regardless of time of day), and delay this one by x-minutes.
@bravenel
Do you think the reason this one didnât fire is because I have it configured to use a âtime of dayâ trigger?
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@bravenel
Iâm trying something a little differentâŚ
[quote=âbravenel, post:3322, topic:28730, full:trueâ]
No, you are having the general ST schedule issuesâŚ
âŚLots of people have been having schedule failures recently.[/quote]
@bravenel
OK. Ya, I knew of this and have seen the discussions. Itâs sort of what I thought may be going on.
[quote=âbravenel, post:3322, topic:28730, full:trueâ]
âŚSunset / Sunrise is no better or worse than Certain Time (actually, itâs worse).[/quote]
My other rules that use sunrise/sunset for conditions seem to work fine. Itâs just things that need to happen at a certain time that are getting skipped.
[quote=âbravenel, post:3322, topic:28730, full:trueâ]
âŚIf you have schedules on the hour or half hour, that could be your problem. Move them to a few minutes off that.[/quote]
OK. None of mine for the water heater were on hour or half hour. I think they were either on the :45 or :50 minute marks.
Bruce, I found some funny stuff with the new interface changes.
For old rules created before you started grouping the actions into pages of similar actions, the actions Iâve set donât populate correctly on the âmainâ action page until I go into the subpage and click âokâ. The rules still appear to function fine, however.
I noticed for setting color on bulbs, if I set color then choose to dim to â0â, the action thatâs created does not reflect âlevel:0â; instead it just shows that no level is set. Again, these rules still function properly.
I too have noticed some niggles but nothing concrete to allow debugging. I did have issues with the delay rule value not migrating on 3 rules, fixed that by finding and re-saving them once I put the value back in.
Last few days some other rules seem to have not migrated the mode/lock value, I have manually changed those and saved them but it was not saving the value. I had to do it 2 or 3 times to get the mode value and lock select to âstickâ.
Maybe just an ST thing, who knows.
These are simple display of descriptive text issues. Old rules opened donât have their actions descriptive text on the intermediate page until you go all the way into the actions and back out. This was an unintended consequence of introducing the intermediate page for Actions. The rules are fine; itâs only the descriptive text that is omitted at first.
Just to clarify, I realize the Rule display issues exist and how they update, not a biggee. My input was based on observations that the rules were actually failing due to missing values and the values not being saved even after multiple attempts at re-entry.
How do you know the values werenât saved? Did you look in the IDE. Not seeing the text doesnât mean they werenât saved (it might or might not). Are you on Android?
Yes, as stated a wholly unscientific observation
I can only âassumeâ the values werenât saved as the errant rules (that used to work) were now either ignoring the mode limitations or not setting the mode as specified in the rule. I also had one door that stopped locking and I found itâs value unchecked in the rule whereas it was checked and executing previously.
Sorry for the lack of proof. If I find another rule the acts in this manner Iâll have a check first before I go bludgeoning the rule with keystrokes
I just did a first time installation of the Rule Machine as per the instructions and everything seemed to be working great. After I created my first rule it appeared (for a while) after âsavingâ it. I could exit that SmartApp (test the rule) and go back in and see it for a while but then all of a sudden - POOF it disappeared! Just vanished⌠I then tried to create a couple of other rules and they also disappeared. Rules even seem to disappear just after I hit Done and expect it to show up on my list within the app. I am running an iPhone 6. Only coincidental thing is it looks like today the ST app got updated with a UI face lift. Coincidence? Am I seeing things?
Also apologize for missing this in the 3K posts above - how do I shut lights off after xx minutes of motion inactivity? Since my rules keep disappearing I canât figure it out for myself at the moment :).
You may have failed to hit Done in Rule Machine when you first opened it in the Marketplace. It seems to work, but hasnât been installed yet, so it actually doesnât work.
Steps:
Marketplace / SmartApps / My Apps / Rule Machine
Hit Done, upper right corner
Then Rule Machine can be found in SmartApps in the âhamburgerâ menu
