Yup. It’s not the ideal setup but it works for now. Really wish there was a something like that homebridge bridge for SmartThings.
Sorry I don’t use a Pi. I have it installed on my home “server”. I use the server for Blue Iris and Plex too so it’s not just wasting power.
Did you find a way to arm in home mode from WebCore?
Follow this thread https://github.com/asishrs/smartthings-ringalarm/issues/15 and follow the link to #10 comment. I think the way I have it set now is the Ring app in Smartthings sets the alarm to a status based on my Smartthings Mode. In Webcore I set my Smartthings mode, So Webcore changes my Smartthings mode which then through the Ring SmartApp changes me RIng Alarm status. I set the modes in Smartthings to be the same as the status name in Ring so everything matches. Hope that helps.
I am not sure if this will help others, but I did a fork of asishrs/smartthings GitHub repository and changed the Smart App (Ring Alarm State) ringalarm-watch.src to sync the classic SHM to the Ring Alarm status, and Vice Versa. So if you change the SHM mode, it will update the Ring Alarm status (and invoke the Ring Alarm Device Handler/API from above). Also, if you change the Ring Alarm status it will update the classic SHM. It does do a recursive call since I am syncing both ways, but it will exit once they are in sync. Just install the Smart app and select your Ring device, no need for WebCore.
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This is amAzing. Should we remove the original Smart App first before Installing yours?
Nice job @skorpian23. I replaced the existing one. It works nicely.
Thanks! I guess I should have named it differently. Sorry about that. If you’d like I can change the name if that helps. Feel free to let me know. I don’t think they can both be installed at the same time.
I really just made this for myself since I use SHM for my alarm status and then Location mode to determine if I am gone or not. And to me they are not the same. I could be home and the house be disarmed or armed stay. I just cleaned it up a bit after I thought other might enjoy it.
Hmmm today didn’t work for me quite as well. When I left and came back home, my WebCoRE piston put the proper SHM status but it never sync’d to Ring and armed/disarmed. Any ideas?
I got rid of my Piston with the new Smart App since I felt it was redundant and didn’t want it to interfere.
@ skorpian23. Is there any way to decrease the amount of time it take the Smart App to poll the Ring Alarm For when Ring is armed via Alexa or in the Ring App or Ring keypad? I think now it’s about a 30-60 second delay. Maybe more.
Does this new app still require the AWS stuff? I could never get that to work for some reason. Or is it more like the homebridge app?
Still requires the AWS integration from Here
Thanks much for this!
Hi - i am interested in adding cellular and security services to my Smartthings security implementation. I have many connected sensors and a few alarms already. If i read this thread correctly, it seems that one can integrate the Ring Alarm with Smartthings. Question - what is the minimal Ring footprint I can acquire that will meet my needs. I think i only want the Ring base station and Ring keypad. Looking online it seems the smallest package is the 5 pack. Am I right in understanding that?
First things first, it’s important to understand that this is not in any way a full integration. You will not be able to use non-ring sensors to trigger the ring alarm, and you will not be able to use SmartThings to see the status of individual ring Sensors.
All this project does is let you synchronize the smart home monitor armed state feature of the classic V2 smartthings app with the armed status of the ring alarm. So when you arm one, the other can arm.
A lot of people like being able to do that, but it’s not integrating any of the other features of either system, Or making the individual devices from one visible to the other.
Is that what you were looking for? If so, you just buy whatever ring system you want, set it up so it’s working on its own, and then you could use this project to synchronize the armed states with SmartThings.
But if you only buy the Ring base station and the keypad, it won’t do you any good. The ring base station will not recognize any of your smartthings sensors, and if it doesn’t have any sensors of its own brand, it will never trigger an alarm.
@JDRoberts, that very clearly answers my question. Yes, I was hoping i could continue to use my ST-connected sensors and connect the Ring Alarm through the integration so it could sound the alarm, alerting Amazon and me and such. Thank you for explaining that this is not the case.
And so I am 100% certain, despite my sensors being Z-Wave sensors, they cannot be associated to the Ring Alarm system, right? I have a collection of ecolink door and motion sensors. Oh, I see this article appears to answer my question. And here is the list of certified products - a few ecolink sensors but they are not even certified. Frown.
Hi Cord. I have the exact integration you are seeking with SmartThings and Ring. I can confirm that only the Ring Zwave door and window sensors and motion sensors and Ring listening devices will trigger an alarm call with Ring. Most other Zwave sensors can pair with Ring but they will not trigger an alarm if the sensors are triggered. Someone on this thread hardwired a Ring door/window sensor to one of the SmartThings sensors so that when he arms his Ring and someone triggers the ST sensor, it will break the Ring contact and thus trigger an Alarm call.
I have not done this since I decided to use mostly Ring devices for my alarm. I can still arm and disarm Ring through ST if I want to monitor everything at once in both apps. The Ring app now allows you to manually call fire and police directly from the app in case you need to do this or if you see that one of your ST contacts was broken. I also have Webcore as well and with this integration the Ring shows up in Webcore. But just the alarm state, none of the devices.
Hope that helps.
The nonRing brand sensors could be added to the Ring zwave network but they can’t trigger any of the security features.
I’m sure that part of that is because ring is using Zwave S2 security for its own sensors, which is the only version that can be UL certified for security, among other things. Most of the sensors that you own already probably are not S2 versions. (Neither is the smartthings hub so far.)
But beyond that, to keep their own customer service costs down and to improve the reliability of their security features, they are likely to limit it to specific models going forward, not just any Z wave device. Most purpose built security systems do the same thing, have a fixed set of device models which are allowed to trigger the security features. So they’re certainly not at a competitive disadvantage by choosing that route.
Remember that in many jurisdictions, false alarms lead to fines if you have too many of them. Security system companies just don’t want to get into those arguments with customers. It’s easier to stick to components that are fully tested and understood by the monitoring company.
Thank you - i am on support chat with Ring now asking about their certification process. While understanding they don’t want to take on the burden of shoddy 3rd party sensors giving false alarms, products by Ecolink and others seem to work well.
I just checked and I could largely replace my existing z-wave door and motion sensors with the 8-pack option which is not much more than the 5 pack deal right now. Still wouldn’t have all my motion areas covered, but the major security-based areas would be covered. Might take the plunge.
I forgot to submit my earlier reply - in reply to @JDRoberts, I understand - it’s frustrating though - all vendors have this issue - you are locked into their ecosystem. So, if you started a DIY and outfit your smart home with best of breed products, you can’t easily add 3rd party security service. I was exploring ScoutAlarm but they appear to have discontinued support for Smartthings?
I am sure i am preaching to the choir and your insights help level set me.
Yes, the scout alarm integration is being discontinued. Right now if you click on the links on the SmartThings site for security, it will take you to the ADT/Smartthings model hub, Which is the only one that I feel meets the minimum requirements for a security system. But that’s just my personal opinion, and it really is just a minimum by today’s standards. It’s the only ST one that doesn’t have a large cloud dependent piece for the security features .
Every other smartthings hub model cannot change the alarm state status without the cloud and cannot send you any notifications without the cloud. So any other ST hub model is a Home Automation system with some convenience notifications, but doesn’t meet UL requirements for a security system and wouldn’t meet my own. Like many community members, I use a completely different system for security.
But since I would need help to evacuate in the event of a fire (I’m Quadriparetic), professional smoke sensor monitoring is essential for our household. Other people will have other priorities.
I think the ring system is a very strong competitor in the low-cost optional monitoring space. Nest protect is obviously in there as well, although they don’t meet my own needs. I like the looks of the abode system for security, but I’m waiting to see if they actually deliver HomeKit compatibility. Simplisafe is still popular, Although it’s falling a bit behind in technological features. And ADT just recently acquired A low-cost DIY offering which they have improved since the acquisition so that it now just has month-to-month contracts, called LifeShield (Which I suspect ADT acquired to compete with ring, which has some people in this forum understandably concerned about whether ADT will continue to expand and improve the smartthings/ADT model.)
Anyway, I’m personally not looking for a DIY very low cost security system because of my own needs, so we’ve stuck with the one we’ve had for a number of years. It does have long-term contracts, and like everybody else with one of those I wonder if it’s worth it. But on the other hand, it’s very reliable, we’ve had almost no false alarms, and I do feel confident that they would get the first responders here if there was a fire. So different households, different needs. 