As you say, this does not have ZigBee or Z-Wave radios in it. It is INSTEON. We don’t have INSTEON support anywhere on our roadmap. INSTEON doesn’t have a cloud and so cloud-to-cloud connections are out. It doesn’t leave us many options other than somehow pairing with an INSTEON hub and doing it that way. It will be far easier to look as some of the Z-Wave/ZigBee controls on the market or coming onto the market.
I bought 1 of ZWN-RSM2 to test in the fan canopy. I just want it to be able to turn the fan on/off and light on/off, would be nice for fan speed control but for now there i no option for that for me.
I have 1 hot wire and 1 neutral, (so 1 switch to turn them both on or off)
I cannot figure out how to hook it up I’ve tried it a few different ways. I was able to pair the device, pretty sure I’ll have to figure out device type as well.
Anybody have any feedback?
Can you upload a photo of your fan wiring?
After the device is paired, can you turn it on/off through SmartThings? Do you hear the relay click?
I can’t upload a pic right now. But I can tell you its just 2 wires hot and neutral from the switch and 3 in fan hot for fan hot for light and shared neutral. Yes it clicks when switching it on off from SmartThings
@mattjfrank are you at your wall switch or up in the fan canopy where the power comes in. At your wall switch this probably won’t work. But up in the fan canopy there is usual 2 hots - 1 fan 1 light. You need to connect the aux outs ( orange to light and blue to fan or visa-versa) from the rsm2 at the fan not the switch
I’m connecting it in the canopy. I am certain this has to do with device type, the instruction say when it loses power it comes back as power off. When i ll the light or fan string I get device activity in the log however and hear the relay clicking however the fan nor light ever power on. I took the device out of the fan hooked it up on the bench and I cannot get the small blue or small orange wire to ever register power on my tester.
The setup that appears to make the device actually work and be added is connecting Load 1, Load 2, and Hot to AC Hot Wire. and the small white neutral wire to AC nuetral.
I am now getting 12 volts from the blue and orange wire, which kinda makes sense they are just little itty bitty wires. maybe 4 gauge at best.
@mattjfrank exactly! The loads (red wires ) and hot from the rsm2 all need to connect to the switched hot from the wall. This will turn the unit completely on or off at the switch. I plan to leave mine always on.
Then the blue and orange need to go to the fan/light combo. One to the fan, one to the light switched power. Make sure the chains for fan and light are where you want it to be pulled in their speed/brightness level.
The big question is how does ST hub see the rsm2 as 2 separately controlled devices or 1?
@tail24 You’re not understanding. It’s not working.
12 volts is not enough power. It needs to be 110 volts. I’m also fairly certain you are wrong about combining the load1 load2 and hot… load 1 and load 2 are marked as neutral’s. You wouldnt combine a hot and a neutral.
I have tried it, as well as many other configurations. None give enough power, none offer any control from smartthings app.
david@enerlites.com is the email for the tech guy for the company. He said via email it would work.
Maybe ask him for best set up .
Just a guess here… but it looks to me that you’d have hot (line) come in on black. Then Load1 should be hot to your first device. Load2 should be hot to your second device.
Is that how you tried it first @mattjfrank?
From their Tech Support
It may be require 2 gang regular switch to control 2 loads separately
Load 1 and Load 2 connect to the Fan and Lighting load.
Hot connect to your hot power wire
Neutral connect to your neutral power wire
Aux 1 and Aux 2 connect to two separate hot/line terminal of regular switches for manual control
Please let me know if you have any questions
Thanks
David
Technical Support Specialist
I’m back to thinking I need to figure out the device type on SmartThings I started again today. Here is how I hooked it up.
House Hot to Hot
House Neutral to Neutral and Aux1 and Aux2
At first I got nothing on either Load1 or Load2
Then I opened smart things and clicked the on and the device clicked and I got 110v on load2 nothing on load1, I did a few clicks on the smart things power and same result only controlling load2
So i tried a few different device types, which none of them did anything.
I went back to Generic Z-Wave Switch and still nothing (maybe an update delay)
Anyway I’m guessing with the right device type this will work.
I think the only reason you will need the blue and orange connected is if you want to also control those items with a switch? Sorry I should have noted the above was from their tech service people not me!
You are correct @tail24
If I connect aux1 / aux 2 to neutral at separate times it does trigger the relay and provide voltage on load1 /load 2
also aux 1 also changes the status in smart things from on to off when touched.
@mattjfrank what if you add it as a controller that has multiple switches?
Like a reverse aeon labs minimote
Not sure how to go about that. I will try to add it as a minimote… See what happens.
Hoping someone else can chime in here, a custom device may need to be created.
^^^ @Ben maybe can shed some light on this?
I reset it yesterday, rewired it in the fan canopy and added to ST. I can still only control 1 load via the ST app. I’m guessing I’m going to have to wait until someone can assist with app modification so that it can control both loads, It may be time for me to get into ST coding.
My goal is to use these in 7 rooms that have fan/ligh combo’s but only have 1 hot running to them, so they will all be in the canopy. This will allow me to change on/off for fan/light. Lacking fan speed control sucks but until a device like fanlinc for z-wave is available it’s the only option that is close to the desired result when you only have 1 hot in the ceiling.
I dont have as many as you, but would love this same system of control. In my living room I will have 2 fan/light combos, and 3 other sets of lights controlled via z wave it would be nice for my wife who isnt as techy to be able to control from a simple switch.