Pairing a device on the other side of the yard


(Stephen Crescenti) #1

I have been using Z-Wave for about 5 years (just switched to SmartThings from Homeseer) and with homeseer, if I had a range issue adding a device, I could just move the computer closer to the device and it would pair no problem. Once the network was established the longer range to the hub wasn’t a problem.

I’m running into this issue now though. Seeing the hub has a leash on it (Ethernet cable), I’m having a problem pairing my dimmer light to my pool (approx. 85’ line of sight to the hub).

What are your suggestions? My first thought was to run a 50’ Ethernet cable and power and temporarily put the hub in the back yard to get closer.

The interesting part is that the hot tub dimmer paired and is working but every now and then the device gets marked “unavailable”. At that point, I just refresh it and it is fine.

The switches are Linear 500W Dimmers that are mounted in my breaker box behind the pool equipment.

Thanks in advance!
Stephen


(Robin) #2

If you use Zwave plus devices it will pair in place.

Classic Zwave and you’ll certainly need a long Ethernet cable, or temporarily wire and power up the device near the hub before moving it back.

With classic Zwave, do a Zwave repair after moving the Hub / device.


(Stephen Crescenti) #3

I don’t recall if it was Z-Wave Plus or not because it’s just a dimmer so wasn’t too concerned at the time. I checked on Amazon, but it doesn’t say plus but has a z-wave plus logo in one of the pix.

I was thinking I would need to go gangsta with my network and run a long Ethernet cable just to pair this one…

For the life of me, I don’t understand why Samsung didn’t build WiFi into the Hub for Gen2 for this exact problem.

Thanks for the reply!


#4

For a zwave classic device, The easiest way is probably to use a minimote. :sunglasses:These are available on both the US and UK frequency. ( you can also use it for zwave devices, it’s just that you probably won’t need to.)

A minimote has two completely separate functions. On an every day basis, it can serve as a handheld remote, and each of the four visible buttons can be assigned to anything that SmartThings can do. So it can turn on another device, change the mode, arm the smart home monitor feature, etc.

In addition, and this is what is relevant here, there are four buttons inside a slider compartment that can be used for administrative functions, including pairing New devices to your network. Very useful. :sunglasses:

Just make sure you get the correct frequency for your region.

US:

http://www.zwaveproducts.com/shop/controllers/z-wave-remotes/z-wave-minimote

UK:

http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-aeon-labs-minimote-remote-control

And here’s the community FAQ on the process:


(Stephen Crescenti) #5

Thanks for the info! I have seen these in the past, but never needed them because most of my devices were hard wired and I even have a 7 button scene controller a the top of my staircase.

If I can’t get the long Ethernet cable to work, I will give this a shot.

A couple years back before Homeseer came out with the Z-Wave plus stick, I used the Aeotec Smart Stick which had a button on it and a built in rechargeable battery that I could walk around, pair or unpair devices and when all was done, plug it back into the computer and sync the data.


#6

Just remember, as @RobinWinbourne mentioned, to do a zwave repair afterwards, since you are moving the hub to a different physical location.

You didn’t have to run this yourself with homeseer, it ran a repair is part of regular maintenance through the Z-health options. But with smartthings, you have to initiate it yourself each time.


(Mike) #7

You could always get a wireless bridge, There are some pretty cheap ones out there that should work for a Ethernet extension.


(Stephen Crescenti) #8

I might have an old wireless range extender in my closet that I could use as a short term interim to get this thing working…

Yea, I noticed there was no automated repair in ST… Homeseer was pretty good with that stuff, but got tired of tinkering with the system.


(Stephen Crescenti) #9

I was finally able to get these devices to pair and I added an outdoor switch halfway in between the pool and hot tub lights, but now they are showing “unavailable”

I ran a z-wave repair and no luck. Any ideas?


(Will) #10

They may just be too far away from the hub, this happens to the sensor in my shed all the time. When the shed door is open no issue, when I close the shed door and have device health “unavailable”. I don’t really have a good half way area to install a repeater or another device to improve the mesh.