Orbit Sprinkler Timer (Iris)

Got the update… thanks. I got it working…open and close! One problem…it only works on one side of the my house. The Hub is in a closet on the west side of the house. Of course all the connections for my drip system is on the east side of the house. So, do I move my connections? Which isn’t a big deal, just another project. Or, any other way to extend the range? I have lots of Zwave but not much Zigbee.

Thanks
Paul

Looks like I’m back to square one. Went through my automatic morning cycle without issue, on at 6:00, on at 6:05, off @ 6:16. Wanted to test the manual process after work today. No rogue devices, but when I tested the manual on/off this afternoon, on works fine, but off doesn’t work. I waited the full 10 minute cycle to see if it was a delayed turn off. It did not. LCD panel just showed the time, no countdown. Set up a test SmartRule to turn it off in 1 minute. That didn’t work either. Went in to eat dinner and it was still on after eating. I had to pull the battery pack to get it to shut off. I heard the valve close when I put the batteries back in.

5:58 is when I opened the device. I never stopped running until after 7:00 when I pulled the batteries.

I turned event logging on when I saw it wasn’t going to close, so I didn’t capture the initial open, but I did capture me trying to turn if off through the device and through SmartRules. Not sure what I should be looking for, but I do see several off() commands that had no effect.

Ideas anyone?

I haven’t tried to extend zigbee so I am not much help here. I actually moved my hub so it had enough range for the two I have.

if it doesn’t turn off when the timer runs out, there is likely an issue with the mechanism on the device. I haven’t experienced this, but others on the forum have. May want to try to swap it out at lowe’s.

Looks like the Edyn water valve is finally for sale. $69 according to the article, but $59 at Home Depot.

Ships in 2-3 weeks. HD is out of stock :frowning:

anyone try this on a gen 1 hub? Or is the magically working better orbit timer just a hub 2 thing?

My only experience is with hub 2.

I’m still having issues with mine. Thankfully, the timer has operated flawlessly for a full week using Smartrules to initiate 15 minute morning and evening watering sessions. Conversely, I have yet to get it to turn on and/or off using the device button. Doesn’t do a thing without the Smartrule initiation. Just tried it again a few minutes ago. Opened it with the device button. Event log indicated it was turned on…no water. Waited 13 minutes to see if it would ever start. It didn’t. Pressed the close button, event log said it turned off.

I’ve looked at the event log and event list for the device, and with the exception of the extra Smartrule entry with that action, I don’t see anything different between the the smartrule initiation and the device initiation.

Color me confused.

Mine works the first time after reset…and then kinda just stops responding. Maybe I should try smartrules to run it but the reason that works over manual operation via the app would be very confusing to me too!

My timer has been working flawlessly with SmartRules for about 2 weeks (still doesn’t work using the device). Happened to check my IDE today and I have a rogue timer. I was hoping this issue was gone. The rogue device was created at 11:30 AM EDT on 5/29, which I believe was during the time the Hub update was occurring. Hopefully it was update related. Looks like I’ll need to keep a close eye on this now.

EDIT: been a long weekend, 29th is today. Hub update was the 26th. Obviously not related to the update process, but perhaps something reintroduced in the update itself.

While I’m just getting started with groovy it’s not that difficult to write new applications/handlers (I’m a programmer). I used the Lowe’s Orbit Timer with Iris last year and it worked flawlessly. Unfortunately the rest of the Iris platform wasn’t so great. I switched to Smartthings and am loving it, couple hiccups but for the most part it works and my wife likes the features.

Getting to the point, I worked with Mitchpond’s, Gussery3’s and the Smarthome outlet code to implement the best of all their efforts. For the last week my device handler worked flawlessly with a CoRe piston rule. Today not so “flawlessly”. I imagine if we had more info from Orbit we could write a device handler. Orbit could be making more money but is probably contractually obligated to Lowe’s for a while.

Instead I went with a 24V waterproof LED power supply, an Orbit valve and a GE outdoor plug per earlier suggestions in this thread. Much cheaper than the Orbit zigbee timer and much more reliable. I keep forgetting I’m a DIY guy but the forum reminds me we’re all DIY people.

Jim you are correct, we have done the best with what we have. According to orbit it was developed by the company that developed Iris for Lowe’s and they are not willing to share (sent several emails). I am just watering my grass when it doesn’t rain for a week, so I am not using mine as frequently as others. To keep it going past 10 minutes I have setup a looping piston in CoRE. It works for what I am trying to do. Since I gave my dad, who lives next door, smartthings I expect my use case is about to change. I will be looking at this again over the next several weeks.

I am hopeful someone will come out with a good inexpensive solution before this stops working for me, but if not I will also be going to the DIY solution if this absolutely stops doing what I need. All the best!

Hi…

Do you have a link for your waterproof power supply? I was thinking of doing the same thing.

Thanks

Hi Gene,

You did a great job on the handler, the device just isn’t documented. I may have even took it too far integrating Dark Sky’s api to check for rain and plantlink sensors. The issue I had was the timer would go dark and not wake up. A z wave controller would work best for me. Again thanks for the direction you headed me towards!

Hi Paul,

The waterproof power supply is an outdoor LED supply, they have other supplies with two outputs if you have more than one valve;

Updated to removed the power supply I posted, didn’t realize the Orbit valve was 24vac, the supply I posted was 24vdc. I switch over to a 24vac hvac transformer that I’m mounting inside a waterproof housing. I send the details and a pic when complete. Sorry for the misinformation!

I also got these as you’ll need to add a pigtail for the 120V plug and connect the 24V wires, they work great;

Just in case, here’s the Orbit valve again;

Already have three GE outdoor outlets from xmas lights so I don’t count that. Overall a cheap solution.

Regards

That’s perfect… thanks for the info.

Paul

Hi Paul,

Realized today hooking everything up that power supply won’t work, it’s dc and the valve want’s 24vac. Using a standard 24vac HVAC transformer in an outdoor electrical box. Both available at Lowes and Home Depot.

Here is a review of the hozelock:

http://www.live-smart.co/news/hozelock-cloud-controller-review-install-9870.

I can’t find the Google Play version of the app, but it looks like there is one in the Apple App Store.

Back to the original subject of this thread… :wink:

…I got one of these today, installed the DTH, powered it up and paired it. Everything was great until I actually tried to control it. Nothing happens on the timer when I open or close it in the app. I reset 3 times and paired it again each time but there was no change. Any ideas?

Update: I guess it just needed some time. I tried it again this morning and it worked.

Now that I’m able to turn it on I just want to verify the expected behavior. I have the dial set to Auto mode and when I turn it on I can see it send a command to water for 10 minutes, which is great. After 10 minutes it clicks off but the ST device still shows it as on/open. If I tap the button in the ST app it goes to closed and if I tap it again it shows Open and the timer turns on (occasionally) for 10 minutes. When it shuts off the device in ST still shows it as Open.

Is this expected? I could probably deal with the ST device tile not updating but not knowing if the device actually turns on when I click Open kind of defeats the whole purpose of the integration.