Not sure where to post but What happens if your Internet goes down?

[ispy (scott sams)]

cause that never happens right? i assume you are SOL right? it appears everything goes through the cloud and this system has no survivability? am i wrong?

[Silverpawn (Brian)]

From experience and by pure logic

All Cloud to cloud automations stop
All non local smartapps stop (99% of apps)
You’re phone app can’t control your hub
local processed apps keep runnning until the internet comes back

When it all comes back up you might spend a couple of hours working out which systems have stopped responding. Until you create static IP’s on your router

However that is one better than a full power cut as that only happens at night and when it is finished all the lights come on at 100% while the hub spends 5 mins reconnecting you also lose the internet and trip a few fuses.

That said usually it goes down everything stops working
It comes back up - you wait 5 mins - everything starts working again just like magic.

[JDRoberts]

@ispy

cause that never happens right? i assume you are SOL right? it appears everything goes through the cloud and this system has no survivability? am i wrong?

The V2 hub is a hybrid system, with most activities running in the cloud but a few eligible to run locally as well if the Internet is not available. It’s complicated, but The following should help cover the details:

Local Processing in Hub V2

Continuing the discussion from What's the deal with Nest?: Correct. I was answering this question below in the global sense. i.e., There will always be the possibility of various benefits available to Official Device Handlers and SmartApps that are not available to un-certified Community Developed ones. At the moment, the local processing benefit is inapplicable to Nest in either case. I’m not sure ST has guaranteed that community developed SmartApps/Device Types will be included in local processing right after certification. Yes, it may be included down the road, and this is not yet clear on how or what the process is to enable community developed stuffs to run locally.

[wenglish (Mike Thomas)]

I went to https://graph.api.smartthings.com/localInstalledSmartApp/list (linked from the thread that JDRoberts linked above), and after logging in I don’t see any entries.

I have Smart Lighting and about 8 automations for some very basic devices. What did I do wrong (or forget to do) to make sure these basic devices and Smart Lighting are whitelisted? If the process is described in the above thread, I couldn’t find it

Thanks … Mike

PS - my “basic devices” are the GE Smart Switch and the Aeon Smart Energy Switch. Nothing fancy

[JDRoberts]

@wenglish

I went to https://graph.api.smartthings.com/localInstalledSmartApp/list (linked from the thread that JDRoberts linked above), and after logging in I don’t see any entries.

I have Smart Lighting and about 8 automations for some very basic devices. What did I do wrong (or forget to do) to make sure these basic devices and Smart Lighting are whitelisted? If the process is described in the above thread, I couldn’t find it

Thanks … Mike

There’s nothing you as a customer can do to change what runs locally except maybe switch to a standard device handler if you had been using a custom one. However, the links to check your own account’s list are different depending on which server your account is on. If you go to a link for a different server, you’ll still be allowed to sign in, but the list will be blank.

Most likely you’re on a different server. The community-created wiki keeps up with the links as more servers are added, older forum posts may not. See the following:

http://thingsthataresmart.wiki/index.php?title=FAQ

[wenglish (Mike Thomas)]

Thanks, yes that was the problem. I had not seen that Wiki before, I have bookmarked it.

I’m surprised SmaartThings isn’t using a balancer.

[Tom2 (Tom)]

The V2 hub has offline mode but it doesn’t work very well. You’ll wish things just completely stopped working as opposed to being on a 2-3 minuted delay. The delay is annoying.

Off-line performance?

Has anyone else experienced the v2 hub offline? I’ve had two extend internet outages in the last 3 months(Thanks TWC) and I’m shocked how badly the system runs offline. I use the Smart Lighting app for 95% of what my house does and have Aeon Lab sensors and GE switches, so there shouldn’t be any issues. Motion triggers activate several minutes after motion is detected or not at all. The “Turn off after motion stops” function completely stops working. Trying to turn the house lights off before going to bed is annoying to say the least because they just turn themselves back on several minutes later when the app decides to react to motion. What can be causing this and is there a fix? Local processing is a requirement for me when it comes to HA. Basic automation should just work no mat…