New ST Now Requires Two Automation Actions?

I have a simple automation to turn on a dehumidifer if the temperature is greater than/equal to 35. Due to the lack of “Else”, I also have a second automation to turn it off if the temperature is less than/equal to 34.

To me this seems really ineloquent, but the only way I can see to make it work. Am I missing something?

BTW, I know a dozen different ways to do this right now (WebCORE, Smart Lighting, etc) but I am trying to prepare for the non groovy future and I am not liking it.

There is always the hope that Automations will get added functionality/features in the future and that it is an unfinished product at this time. :slight_smile:

Also, check out Rules API…

Another option…


Isn’t the fading out of IDE (groovy) supposed to occur at the end of the year?

No one really knows the exact date… possible it could be at the end of the year, possible it could be early next year, possible it could be any time. The important fact is users should start preparing for the end of groovy and all the associated smartapps and backend changes from the shut down of groovy.

By preparing… I don’t mean to imply you need to take action now…

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About a month ago, I decided to redesign and upgrade my entire smarthome network. Part of that was to prepare for this change by eliminating things that relied on software that was going away, IDE, WEBCore etc.

It’s sad to see the plan is to destroy something that works and forcibly replace it with something that isn’t fleshed out beyond the basics and requires more effort to get back to where we are today.

Very short sighted.

Maybe it’s time to re-examine what system I am using rather than trying to contort everything to fit a direction that doesn’t seem to be fully defined. The one thing I have learned in doing all of this redesign is that a lot of what I have can be made compatible with other systems.


that was rather eloquently put.

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When I leaped into SmartHome tech a few years ago, I did a lot of research into the devices available. At the time, Samsung was hands down the best. There were issues, of course, but there were issues with all of them, ST allowed the most freedom to make it work the way you wanted it to, instead of how they visualized your needs and forced you to accept them. As time went on, the device became what I wanted and with WebCORE and a few other custom writes of my own I molded it into what made my house a SmartHome showplace.

Now it seems like that creative ethos is gone and everything that worked so well for so long is now in a big messy pile on the floor with no one communicating what is coming next or in what direction.

Change I can handle, change without logic and a smart road for tranisiton is so illogical.


Couldn’t of put it better myself, @SmartThings @Brad_ST @jody.albritton @ady624 are you reading this? We’re going to be left with not even 10% of what we have now, unless you are keeping something from us. If you know full parity won’t happen, at least tell us up front.


I would really like to sit down at a table with the person who created these “Automations” in the new app. Nothing works as expected, it’s so illogical, spending hours trying to configure simple rules, they must be smirking to themselves knowing how non-user friendly they are.