NEW Advanced User App for SmartThings Web!

I hadn’t noticed you can change the icon for a routine in both the Advanced Web App and the mobile app now. Neat!


Create a new Routine and notice the difference for selecting icons now


Are the actions of this scenes (manually run routines) new

Are the conditions and actions of this rules (automatic routines) new

or are they new only to me?

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New to me also.

The only way I’ve found to access those details is to go from a device that is referenced by the Rule or Scene.

The Scene’s and the Rule’s name is link and by pressing the link you can see their summary and actions.

You have to scroll down and then you see the actions of the scenes and the rules.

Sorry, I wasn’t clear. I’ve found all those details.

But so far as I can find there is no list of all Scenes and Routines, there is only the In Use By list for each device.

Am I missing something?

From left side menu you can open Scenes and Rules list

Ah! I was missing something. Thanks! No idea why I didn’t look there…

It seems like we’re getting some progress towards more things running locally.

While the app doesn’t show the house icon on my Scenes, the Advanced Web UI shows all scenes as local execution as long as all devices referenced in the scene are running locally.

However a Routine that executes a scene still runs in the cloud.

And yes, I’m boycotting the name “manually run routines”. At least until it’s used consistently thru the whole platform.


Am I the only person who is confused. I was excited to see that the Advanced User App now had Rules. But disappointed and confused when what is shown are Automatic Routines (name from the iPhone App) rather than Rules (from the Rules API).

Seems to me that there is no consistency about naming and support. Are Rules (as defined by the Rules API) being deprecated?

Just confused here.

Yes, that is a bit of a head scratcher. Regardless of what they are calling them I find it a bit strange that the Routines are there at all. The whole way Routines have always been pitched is as simple turnkey automations in the client apps that don’t really have anything ‘advanced’ about them.

I am really beginning to fear for them. I’ve been waiting three or four years for key functionality that is used in the Routines to make it to the public Rules API but not a sniff, and I’ve been waiting two years for the sunrise/sunset bug in cloud Rules to be fixed with no joy. Far from being enhanced to webCoRE levels of functionality, in real terms they’ve gone backwards.