NEW Advanced User App for SmartThings Web!

[TapioX]

For virtual devices that run locally on a SmartThings hub
the virtual device’s driver field is empty.

In my opinion, the name of the virtual device driver has also been seen here before.
Does anyone else have the same situation?

[orangebucket (Graham)]

@TapioX

In my opinion, the name of the virtual device driver has also been seen here before.
Does anyone else have the same situation?

The local virtual devices have the Virtual Switch driver under the hood. All my virtual devices running locally are VIRTUAL devices using my own Edge driver and they present in the same way in the AWA.

I think it is just a case of the AWA needing a bit of a tweak to handle VIRTUAL devices sensibly. As far as I know you can’t change the Edge driver powering a VIRTUAL device on the fly. There are probably enough bits in the same place for it to do the wrong thing.

Addressing the specific question, I am pretty sure that I’ve seen the name of the Edge driver displayed too. It is ‘a good thing’ if they removed it to stop people trying to change it. It would have been ‘a better thing’ if they just made it a read-only field.

[dualtronic (Joe)]

I’m getting the following error. It’s been like this for 3 days. I tried the “recover” link, but it says my info doesn’t match my login name.

[jkp]

Things to try:

• clear browser cache
• use a private/incognito tab
• try a different browser
• disable any ad blocking extensions

If still unable, contact ST support directly and report the issue

[Monty2_2001 (Johnny)]

Yes, I’ve been getting the timed out error and have to use QR scan to get in. Google login is also still broken. It might be due to VPN or something, but nobody at Samsung support seemed to have any clue on even how to make a ticket for it, so I’ll just work around it with QR.

It ended up into the support ‘pass the buck’ round of contacting smartthings, they said it’s an account issue to get sent there, then they send it back to smartthings when you tell them which site it is. Typical uselessness of modern support.

[jlv]

@dualtronic

I’m getting the following error

I just noticed I am getting this error, too.

The last time this happened it was broken at their end, and everyone here kept saying things like “clear browser cache, private tab, other browser”, etc. None of that helped back then, either. It didn’t start working until some group inside Samsung fixed the back end.

That this can repeatedly happen… and not be immediately resolved (and fixed to never happen again)… is an example of what SmartThings has devolved into.

[jlv]

@jlv

@dualtronic

I’m getting the following error

I am getting this error, too.

Last time this exact error happened to me (Aug 28, 2023):

[Advanced users app] "Couldn't load web page" error - Cannot log in to the Samsung Account

Today I find I cannot login to the new advanced app. After entering my username, I get: **Couldn't load webpage** The webpage didn’t respond to the request in time. ※ IAMUSSauseast1_1693250006502_99999-2873216827.999

I gave up trying to get in after playing browser games on my end. And a week later it just started working again (Sep 6, 2023):

[Advanced users app] "Couldn't load web page" error - Cannot log in to the Samsung Account

It’s for Samsung to fix something on their end - whatever it is they did that caused it in the first place. I gave up on this problem after I last tried to get it fixed a week ago. It wasn’t working on any of my computers. Just now I tried again… and now it is working. I’ve done nothing on my end since it wasn’t working. But now it is working.

[TapioX]

@nayelyz

The engineering team also included the option to create Locally run devices in the Advaced Users App. Remember only Switch and Switch Level have this option available, so, you will be able to select one of those two.

Now it’s possible to create Local Virtual Switches using Advanced User App.

It’s also possible to make Local Dimmer Switch.

[higorchv]

When will it be possible to see the zigbee mesh? It is essential to know which route

[TapioX]

A nice addition to the my.smartthings.com-advanced features
Now from the Rules list you can see both the routines made with the SmartThings application and Rules API rules.

Edit 1:

Also Rules API rule’s Logic can be seen:

Also Rules API rule’s JSON

Edit 2: @nayelyz
The Logic function only works partially. In some rules the If part has no conditions at all ( only standard text ).

However, in some rather complex rules, the Logic function works fine.

Edit 3: @nayelyz informed that the engineering team confirmed they released the fix (to edit 2 issues) yesterday 19. June 2024.

Now this Rules API rules’ documentation works great.
This is an excellent tool for studying how rules work.

[Paul_Oliver (PCO)]

Thanks for the heads up. It also shows “Smart lighting” recipes.

[orangebucket (Graham)]

@TapioX

Now from the Rules list you can see both the routines made with the SmartThings application and Rules API rules.

The Smart Lighting rules are also listed. Oh, beaten to it.

That’s almost all of them. It is also possible to determine the names of Rules created by app tokens and what devices they use. I don’t think you can view them though, or know which app owns them. I also don’t know if you can get them through the front door like the others.

[higorchv]

Great news… When will it be possible to edit the JSON code of the API rule? This would take automation to another level

[Johnnybegoode (John)]

I see it says “Rules are read-only for now” while the Enabled button is greyed out, so looks good

[HalD (Hal)]

@orangebucket

Smart Lighting rules are also listed

Not all of them. The only Smart Lighting rules I have remaining involve syncing/mirroring devices. None of them are listed.

Snarky comment: I note that “scenes” are still called scenes in the Advanced Web UI

[Barkis (John C)]

@HalD

Snarky comment: I note that “scenes” are still called scenes in the Advanced Web UI

Totally agree with you. Perhaps it’s intentional–for, say, more “advanced” users–but I’ll bet they just haven’t gotten around to it. I hope it’s left alone and “scenes” can remain named properly!

[orangebucket (Graham)]

@Barkis

Perhaps it’s intentional–for, say, more “advanced” users–but I’ll bet they just haven’t gotten around to it. I hope it’s left alone and “scenes” can remain named properly!

I hope they get rid of the things. It makes no sense for them to have a separate existence as they are just rules without ‘if’ statements. It is even more nonsensical that they are in the public API but are managed exclusively by client apps.

Although I think ‘manually run routines’ isn’t the best description of them, I do think the client app has the right idea by presenting them together with the ‘automatic routines’.

What they desperately need to do is to replace the ability to execute a scene in rules with the ability to execute an arbitrary rule. That would be game changing.

[Paul_Oliver (PCO)]

Interesting, the only Smart lighting rules I have also involve syncing/mirroring devices. And they are all listed in the Advanced Users App.