Meross as a replacement for MyQ (2023)

Thanks, jkp, this is what I found out. You can buy the accessories separately for 9.99 each. Links to purchase and installation directions below. Get one of these for each door and then you can just use the Zooz or any other Zwave or Zigbee or Wifi relay you want that is compatible with ST. Native ST integration without worrying about the cloud connection going away! Just wire this all up close enough to your garage for the remote accessories to work. Of course, you also have to have sensors on the doors that you can expose to ST to determine open or closed. My plan is to use the ring sensors I already have installed or some ST multipurpose sensors I have laying around. Will work perfect for me. Plus free shipping.

You could also buy replacement remotes and do the soldering yourself but would be more expensive and labor intensive!

I’m going to buy one of these and see if it works via matter. Then I can make my own Matter Garage door controller.

https://www.amazon.com/Aqara-Requires-Contact-Boilers-Supports/dp/B0CC2B8C37/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?keywords=zigbee+relay&qid=1699037691&sr=8-3-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9hdGY&psc=1

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Can we just use some kind of automation with a virtual button to trigger MyQ? Much better than adding another device no?

how would it communicate with MyQ?

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As @jkp noted, the whole reason this thread was started is that Chamberlain recently shut down the API that allowed most third-party rules to communicate with MyQ. (They also dropped their integrations with Alexa, Google home, and HomeKit.) so the communitybuilt integration that people were using stopped working.

You can read the discussion of the former integration being shut down in the following thread:

[ST Edge] SmartThings MyQ Edge (Obsolete) - #1541 by JDRoberts

That caused people to start looking for SmartThings-compatible alternatives to MyQ, and one of the popular options is the Meross garage controller. So this thread was started.

At the time of this posting, there’s no way for a virtual button in smartthings to communicate with MyQ the way the old integrations used to work. :disappointed_relieved:

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In theory you can pay for the MyQ subscription and pay for IFTTT Pro and link them with a virtual device that way

The IFTTT service for MyQ only allows you to close the door, not open it. Apparently they consider that a security feature. :thinking:

ah, true. I was only thinking of showing the status in SmartThings.

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IFTTT can close my myQ door with no problem. why its not allowed to open it using geofencing is beyond me. and I pay for my IFTTT accoount.

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Ahhhhh. I apologize and I am following this thread in hopes there is some kind of workaround. I overlooked all of the problems with myq dropping support for 3rd party integrations. I have a home bridge from when they offered it to people who originally purchased the opener that promised HomeKit integration. Oddly they discontinued it so quickly. Thankfully their home bridge still works and I hope it continues to work.

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Alright, so I just finished adding the Zooz ZEN16 v2 along with two new tilt sensors and a new Chamberlain wireless 953EV remote for my two doors. My doors are on opposite sides of the house and different levels so not as simple as if they were side by side but the house is still small enough to get it done with one relay and one remote.

Overall the install itself went pretty much as expected.

Step 1: program the remote to the openers. Anyway button 1 of the remote to the main garage door and button 2 to the basement garage door. The 953EV remote appears to support multiple different learn button types of GDO so you need to read the instructions as there is a program button and number of presses to set the remote to your learn button color yada yada yada.

Step 2: crack open the remote and solder some wires to the buttons 1 and 2. Quick test by touching each of the other ends of the wire together confirmed I’ve got good connection and I’m ready for the relay.

Step 3: installed the tilt sensor on each door and added to Smartthings. I bought new Ecolink tilt sensors because I forgot a repurposed my old ones… oh well.

Step 4: connect the remote pigtail wires to the Zooz relay… pretty self explanatory here but button 1 to relay 1 and button 2 to relay 2.

Step 5: powered up the Zooz and added it to Smartthings. Oops, forgot to add the Zooz driver… easy enough - enrolled in the driver, added it and then change the driver. Perfect, now I have the relay.

Step 5a: re-read the instructions on how to get child devices for Zooz ZEN16 ok, did that and added them.

Disappointment time: all the Zooz documentation seemed to imply they had replicated the old Zooz garage door smartapp and when you set the relay to ‘garage door’, then the child device would show up as a native garage door device. yeah… no. Just shows up as a standard switch. Damnit.

Ok… now to build everything manually and add the routines to mirror the logic: double damnit!

Step 6: Use @TAustin wonderful virtual driver to create a virtual garage door. (Vgdo for short)

Step 6a: Now two routines to sync the door status: if tilt sensor open then vgdo open, if tilt sensor closed then vgdo closed.

Step 6b: Now two more routines to actually close and open the door: had to get creative with these: name: close vgdo - if vgdo contact sensor open and tilt sensor open as preconditions and vgdo closed, then trigger relay 1. Name - open vgdo - if vdgo contact closed and and tilt sensor closed as preconditions and vgdo open, then trigger relay 1. I determined I needed to add the preconditions to prevent improper triggering of the relay by one of the other routines which ended up causing the relay to trigger mid door cycle and stopping halfway.

Step 6c: I needed to add a validation test, just in case the garage door is closing but for whatever reason doesn’t close (e.g.: something trips the safety sensor), we need to have the vgdo revert to showing the proper open state - routine 5 - if vgdo closed for 1 minutes and tilt sensor shows open, then change vgdo contact sensor to open.

Step 7: repeat all of step 6 for second door.

Overall opinion:

the chamberlain 953ev remote range sucks more than I expected it to but I was able to find a location between the two doors that works reliably. I may get a cr2032 to USB adapter and just go hard powered for the remote.

Very disappointed that the Zooz ZEN16 claims to have or at least implies they have native garage door support and they even sell a garage door kit but it doesn’t actually add as a native garage door which required basically manually building out the logic with virtual devices and at least 5 routines per door.

Once all the setup was done, it works and seems to work well.

I ended up deleting the child devices and just using the main Zooz relay device for all of my configs as they were not needed - since I ultimately am controlling the doors via the virtual gdo device and not directly via the relay itself.

I do not have all the native status like brbeaird did where you can see real-time closing and opening status but it seems to do the job and keeps the status of the virtual doors in sync with the tilt sensor.

I also have the Meross solution coming mostly because I just want to see how well baked their solution is compared to the Zooz relay option. While I love the 100% local solution- it just feels like it’s half baked.

If the Meross solution adds as a native garage door and I can use my existing in wall sensor wires for the door sensor by splicing them in instead of having to use their exposed wires then I may rip out the Zooz solution.

Anyway, those are my thoughts so far.

Edited to fix some typos

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I have been using Meross MSG100s on both of my doors for about 4 years. It has been rock solid and integrated perfectly with SmartThings. It is cloud based to ST so of course won’t function if you have internet connectivity issues.

It is definitely a MyQ replacement function wise and in my opinion is substantially better than MyQ for a number of reasons. Primarily the integrations as well as the hard wired connection to the opener itself and hard wired contact style open/close sensor meaning no batteries required, no RF signal to the opener and better reliability. It is quite a bit more flexible than MyQ.

With that said, I do still have a MyQ on one of my doors and that’s because I use Amazon Key in garage delivery which requires MyQ. Other than that, it’s not used for anything else.

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trying to figure out how to run the sensor cable across my garage ceiling which is textured. want to use one of those ‘cable management’ systems but doubt the sticky tape will adhere. any suggestions for a glue that would work on this type of surface or should I just nail it up? thanks in advance

I like Sugru for many projects like this. (We just used it to put up a led light strip on a textured paint surface.)

It’s a silicon adhesive. Come out of the package with the consistency of play dough, then dries to rubber. Waterproof, quite strong, easy to remove, but adheres well. Good UV resistance. Available in multiple colors. Each little package has a piece about the size of two US quarters. We typically break that into four pieces. Each of those pieces easily supports a pound of weight once dry.

Available at Amazon in the US or UK. Also at Walmart, which seems to usually have the best price. See the manufacturer site for lots of project examples, and more details.

I first discovered it when it came along with a robot button— it was great for attaching the button to a blender or coffeemaker.

Since then, we’ve used it for lots of projects around the house, and have been very happy with it.

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Walmart:

Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Sugru-I000941-Moldable-Multi-Purpose-Creative/dp/B089WHQ52C/

Amazon UK:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Sugru-tesa®-Malleable-Purpose-Adhesive/dp/B08NC9LN41/

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I dont think would work on a textured surface unless someone can confirm

Sugru definitely works on a textured surface. Here’s the wall where we just put up the LED strip with it:

It also works well on brick.

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And from the manufacturer site:

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What it doesn’t work on is an oily plastic surface, like Teflon.

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Not sure why you said “exposed” wires for door sensors? It’s closed inasmuch as the rest of the wires for our native garage door openers. I actually do like the wired door sensors for Meross vs using a wireless Zigbee or ZWave door sensor bc (1) doesn’t get disconnected as easily, and (2) no need to change batteries anymore.

Just my two cents.

I just used these. It’s similar to how they attached the regular garage door wires as well. https://a.co/d/bQPNBu1

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This video shows an excellent solution for using the sensors without dealing with the traditional placement. He used the door rail and the arm attachment. Seems like a great approach: https://youtu.be/w4pZfUDyNAE?t=587

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this is an excellent video. might be the route I take. thank you!

when I said ‘exposed’, meant having to run the wires along the ceiling. My garage is finished with the necessary wires hidden behind the drywall. Exposed / visible wires = ugly.

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