Just a heads up: the Tuya pro wired matter bridge gateway is out, and I am seeing trouble reports of problems adding its child devices to many non-Tuya Home Automation systems popping up on many Home Automation forums. Sometimes the issue is just that the person doesn’t have IPv6, But it looks like multiple other issues as well.
Since I don’t have one of these and don’t intend to get one, I’m mostly staying out of the conversations for now. But we are starting to see these threads in this community as well. Tuya has always had a lot of idiosyncrasies even in its certified devices, so that wouldn’t be surprising, but I haven’t seen any detailed writeups yet.
Here’s one version from Moes, but there are lots of them.
Note the use of the SmartThings logo, but with the tagline “compatible with SmartThings“ rather than “works with SmartThings.” That’s because it hasn’t been through the SmartThings certification process required for the use of WWST, but since it is matter certified, they are allowed to say “compatible with.“
If somebody gets one, and has it working with SmartThings, I’m sure a detailed review would be much appreciated.
@JDRoberts, do you have any information on whether the MOES labeled Matter Gateway is different than the Zemismart M1 Matter Bridge? Is it the same firmware inside as the Zemismart GW firmware, just a different housing / white label?
More than 3 years after my first encounter with devices based on the Tuya platform, it is still a mystery to me who writes the application firmware for these devices … My understanding is that it is not Tuya, not MOES, not Zemismart - but some other engineering companies that are almost impossible to reach.
My understanding is that it is Tuya that writes the initial firmware: they publish the developer docs, for example. But that the customer companies like Moes and zemismart can modify that for their own brands, and some do. And they may outsource that custom work to a different company.
It appears to me from the specs that the zemismart m1 and the Moes “Tuya pro” gateway are different models. For one thing, the outer cases are different.
The Moes device has the identical specs and case to the tuya white label model THP10-z-x on this page:
Cool! Seems 2024 is the year of retrofit locks. Abode just announced one and I think there’s at least two more coming from manufacturers not in the space yet.
The HomeKit insider podcast is starting to feel like a very unreliable source of news.
Homekitnews.com does a much better job on details. Here’s the recent report:
Aside from the addition of Matter compatibility, the new Hub Mini adds an external sensor integrated into the USB-C power cable, which is something we first saw with the Switchbot Hub 2.
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Even if some Switchbot Hub Mini owners are likely going to feel a little miffed at not getting a Matter update for their original hubs (which are now a few years old, to be fair) This clearly shows that Switchbot is more or less committed to Matter as a standard, which is good news for not only Apple Home users, but other Matter platform too.
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As it stands, this announcement has only been made on their Japanese website, where Switchbot as a brand is very popular, but it’s more or less a certainty that Switchbot will be releasing the updated Mini to international customers soon.
Also note that you can tell the Gen one SwitchBot hub mini (no matter support) from the Gen two (with matter support) by the addition of the external sensor on the charging cable.
The eve energy outlet, if it doesnt work with v2 hub, can it work with the samaung tv or the charging station that samaung came out with… forgor the name sorry.
Yes, the Eve outlet will work with a SmartThings Station.
You can also use most Alexa and many Google Homes devices as your tread board router. Not sure if the Alexa or Google options will affect energy reading in ST.
Newer model Samsung TVs that support the Zigbee/Thread dongle can support the Eve Energy outlet. Also, Samsung refrigerators that have the built-in Family Hub can support the Zigbee/Thread dongle and support the Eve Energy outlet. That’s what I’m currently using.
And, as pointed out by @Paul_Oliver, the Samsung Station can support it as well.
I think this will be a good test of whether matter delivers on one of its promises to device manufacturers: limiting development costs, since they will only need to meet one standard.
Maybe or maybe not. My recent experience with the ThirdReality Nightlight shows that either the assumptions about what features a Matter device will offer or the way in which ST recognizes those features is flawed. That device offers switch (on/off), switchLevel (dimmer), colorTemperature, colorControl, motionSensor, and illuminanceSensor capabilities. And while ST has handlers for all those features, it didn’t include them all in the matter-switch driver which would be the selected driver “out of the box”. So, to support all those features on the ST platform, ThirdReality ended up having to create a specific Edge driver to support their device (the alternative, of course, would be that a community developer would have to take up that cause). And while the work to create the driver was fairly trivial for a typical software developer, there still would have been the cost of learning the ST code base, how to code for the missing capabilities, how to package and publish an Edge driver, and testing the functionality of the driver and device. All of that drives up the development cost, at least if they want to have their device(s) supported in the ST world.
