After using ST over the last two years and buying the Aeotec v3 hub I’ve gotten to a point where I’ve given up and have pretty much made the decision to move to Home Assistant.
Working (mainly) with ST to date has been:
Two Govee products (lamp and TV back light)
Arlo external camera with smarthub
Dozens of Meross smart lights (WiFi)
4 x Sonoff smart switches
Two Meross lamps (WiFi)
4 x Meross power strips (WiFi)
LG CX TV (WiFi)
Samsung surround sound system (WiFi)
Panasonic UHD Blu-Ray player (WiFi)
8 x Meross smart plugs (WiFi)
Dozens of Aeotec and Samsung SmartThings multi-function and PIR sensors
3 x Aqara single way, no neutral smart wall switches
Samsung SmartThings security camera
2 x Aqara door sensors
New Aqara P2 mmWave presence sensor
10 x IKEA Zigbee lights
2 x SmartThings buttons
But still I’ve had to adopt Google Home to find hacks and workarounds for the lack of Tado integration, and still no viable way to have my super expensive, cloud connected Dyson air filter and fan.
I’ve given up. I’ve battled like crazy to get the Aqara P2 mmWave sensor to even partly work, Tado still doesn’t work properly and the Dyson seems impossible at this point.
I installed HA as a VM to test and play with and whilst the complexity is overwhelming, it does seem that having a HA with a Zigbee / Z-Wave dongle may alll me to have everything in my home working together without needing 6 different hubs and controllers.
There’s the new HA Green Appliance which I’ve preordered.
This is less of a question and more of a mea culpa… Is it just me? Have I missed something?
Anyone in the same boat? Would it make sense to keep the ST hub along with the HA, or should I be aiming for going full HA?
Really interested in others experiences, tips, and advice. Am I making a mistake?
Thanks to everyone in the community. Feel sad to be considering parting ways, but I don’t know what else to do at this point.
Wow, that is a very extensive list of devices.
I suspect that maintenance will be non-negligible on any platform.
I was very conservative with my home automation, sticking to Zigbee and Z-Wave.
I mostly stuck to supported devices except for my heating Z-Wave thermostats. These required custom Groovy handlers and I had to write my own Edge drivers for them.
I avoided WiFi completely (even my Samsung TV is attached to ethernet).
Sorry, this information is not much use to you but it may help others building home automation systems.
Actually because it’s more powerful for certain tasks (my use case is a port of Bangali’s Rooms Manager code from his old smartapp
Theres some stuff better and some worse than ST.
Its almost impossible for HA to hose you accidentally. Just turn off the updates (i update manually once a month) but when you do update theres usually a Bunch of docs to read and they list all the breaking changes. This one was flat out a bug. The developer was preparing a bunch of docker images to fit into an internal structure change (involved a migration) and the file copy happened out of order (whoops)
Yes this is one of the worst whoops I’ve seen from HA and I’ve been helping people restore thier NR installs all morning but at the end of the day if you have a backup you’re back up and running within hours.
(mine took 90 minutes with a botched first attempt)
Fortunately once we learned what happened and how it happened it was a pretty easy if not cumbersome fix.
Congratulations. I almost bought myself a green it’s an interesting box.
Skyconnect is a multiprotocol capable Silicon Labs Zigbee /Thread radio. If you provision it with the Multiprotocol stack and the matter Addin… It does matter over thread NOW.
That said welcome to the world of fractured on boarding. The credential issue on matter has made this part a mess - but for further details on provisioning matter on Skyconnect on HA the HA forum will be happy to help.
(so I you might be correctly reading between the lines in that while Matter is available Now with skyconnect, I wouldn’t mess with multiprotocol unless you need it.)
Personally I still have my Skyconnect in it’s box next to some random thread matter plug. (note I didn’t say plugged in?) and I have no intention to unless the on boarding gets better. (this is the CSAs issue btw not HA or ST) I have zigbee, ZWave and Bluetooth radios. Use a short USB extension at a minimum or a small USB2 (yes 2, 3 causes interference in the 2.4ghz-3ghz range.)