I bought one of these remotes to use as a secondary controller for a few of my zwave light switches/outlets. The light switches and outlets were already added to ST before I got my remote. Do I need to remove them from ST, pair them with the remote, and then add them back to ST to get this to work? I am hoping to avoid that, as then i would have to redo my smart apps, etc. wouldnt I?
No, just add your remote to SmartThings and then add the individual devices to the keys on your remote. The remote will act as a secondary controller.
How do I connect it to smart things. its not detected when I try to add it, and there isnt an option under Remotes and Buttons.
I have one of those. It’s a life savior when SmartThings is having a seizure. Including it took several attempts, but eventually it did. Keep trying.
Yeah it took 3 tries. Probably should have been closer to the hub on the first 2 tries. I got it added to smart things, now to add the switches, etc. Thanks for the help as usual guys and gals.
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I burnt a few hours and learned all the basic functions of the remote. For a few bucks on the Internet, this is a must have for remote controlling your Z-Wave devices on you ST Hub, worth it just to easily factory reset a device that is having paring issues. This item needs to get fully integrated into ST, cause as of now you can only control the Z-Wave devices on your Hub. We should be able to get this to be installed on ST’s and program the button on the App to do any on/off/dimmer/variable function. Would be great if the GE Link Bulb (Zigbee protocol) was functional with this unit via the hub. Remote should tell the hub to trigger any device on any protocol, needs some integration…
But here’s my basic setup notes, cause GE’s small handout is cryptic…
+UPDATED - 2/17/2015 - ADDED REMOTE CLONING SECTION
45600 REMOTE - BASIC SMARTTHINGS SETUP
-Ensure Remote is not already on a Z-Wave Network (Reset/Clear) and to clear all devices from it (if already installed in ST, then use Removal procedure below, prior to Resetting/Clearing remote):
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 969, complete when green flashes twice.
-Note that none of the remote on/off buttons flash now (all devices cleared, remote is blank)
-Install (Add) GE 45600 Remote to ST:
-In ST App, +, + Connect New Device, Searching
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 967, flashes green rapidly till connected to App/Hub.
-When App says 1 connected, Select Found Item at the Bottom (Z-Wave Remote)
-Name Device “GE 45600 Remote”, Next, Done.
-Note - the All On/Off feature will not work for all Z-Wave devices currently assigned to the ST Hub, see All On/Off Feature below.
-Remove (Delete) GE 45600 from ST:
-In ST App, Things, Select Remote Setup Icon, Preferences, Remove, Uninstall
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 967, flashes green rapidly till removed from App/Hub.
-When App says Success, Press OK and item is removed from Things page.
-Always good to perform a Remote Reset/Clear (above).
GE 45600 REMOTE - PROGRAM/ASSIGN DEVICES TO BUTTONS
-Remote must already be setup/assigned to the ST Hub per the above procedures.
-You can program up to 18 buttons, use the Setup/Shift button to access buttons 11-18.
-Setup (Add) Device (Light/Switch) to a Remote button:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Press Add (Red Blink), Press Light (Red Blink), Press desired Number (flashes green rapidly)
-Press button on actual device, complete when green flashes twice.
-Setup (Remove) Device (Light/Switch) to a Remote button:
-If you press the Delete button vs the Remove button below, you may Delete (Reset the Device to Factory Settings) the device from your ST Hub; to recover the device you may need to force remove it from the App, then Reinstall it again.
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Press Remove (Red Blink), Press Light (Red Blink).
-Press desired Numbered button on the remote to erase the device from (flashes green twice).
-Note that when an unprogramed number button is selected, it will not flash at all.
GE 45600 REMOTE - ALL DEVICES ON/OFF FEATURE
-Allows you to quickly turn all Z-Wave devices assigned to the ST Hub On/Off with one click.
-Strange, but I’ve noticed this will work all Z-Wave devices setup on the ST Hub, whether they were added to the remote or not. Also, it only works for Z-Wave devices, any Zigbee items (Bulbs will not cycle).
-To Turn all On, select All button, then use any numbered button to turn All Z-Wave devices On/Off.
-Remote will stay in All On/Off mode until you press the Setup/Shift button once to return to normal.
-Remove Devices from the All On/Off feature:
-By factory default, all items are automatically added to the All On/Off control, to delete a device from the All On/Off feature:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Press Delete once (Red Flash), Press All once (Green Flash).
-Press the assigned button of the item you want Removed from the All On/Off Feature (green flashes twice).
-Add Devices from the All On/Off feature:
-By factory default, all items are automatically added to the All On/Off control, to add a device back to the All On/Off feature:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Press Add once (Red Flash), Press All once (Green Flash).
-Press the assigned button of the item you want Added back to the All On/Off Feature (green flashes twice).
GE 45600 REMOTE - FULL DUPLICATE/CLONE (MAKE A COPY OF A REMOTE)
-If you want a true duplicate remote, ensure you clear/reset the new one prior to transfer, else you will may retain any old devices already stored in the new remote. Prior to transfer, Reset/Clear remote by completing the following:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 969, complete when green flashes twice.
-Note that none of the remote on/off buttons flash now (all devices cleared, remote is blank)
-New Remote into Receive Mode:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 967, flashes green rapidly while waiting and during transfer (will flash red if it times out).
-Original/Old (Functional) Remote into Send Mode:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 9661, flashes green rapidly while waiting and during transfer (will flash red if it times out).
- Complete when green flashes twice on Both Remotes.
GE 45600 REMOTE - TRANSFER NETWORK SETTINGS (COPY NET INFO WITH NO BUTTON/DEVICE DATA)
-Use this procedure if you want to add a remote by transferring the network info from another, but you do not want the button/device info transferred. This will render a new remote that is functional on the same network, but will not have any buttons/devices transferred from the original remote.
-If you want a blank remote, ensure you clear/reset the new one prior to transfer, else you will may retain any old devices already stored in the new remote. Prior to transfer, Reset/Clear remote by completing the following:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 969, complete when green flashes twice.
-Note that none of the remote on/off buttons flash now (all devices cleared, remote is blank)
-New Remote into Receive Mode:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 967, flashes green rapidly while waiting and during transfer (will flash red if it times out).
-Original/Old (Functional) Remote into Send Mode:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Type 9662, flashes green rapidly while waiting and during transfer (will flash red if it times out).
- Complete when green flashes twice on Both Remotes.
GE 45600 REMOTE - PRIMARY CONTROLLER SHIFTS (NOT APPLICABLE WITH SMARTTHINGS)
-Codes 9681 & 9682 are for transferring full primary control from one remote to another (i.e. replacement). Since the SmartThings Hub is the primary controller, these functions have no purpose and will fail if attempted. These programing codes are only useful if you are using a GE 45600 Remote as a Stand-Alone Primary Controller, then you can transfer the same info similar to functions 9661 & 9662.
FACTORY RESET - ANY Z-WAVE DEVICE
-There is a set of Z-Wave Utilities on the App that offer some capabilities, find it under the Hub Setup screen (Options, Setup Gear, Select Hub, then ZWave Utilites, the Device Exclusion option may help you to reset a device.
-The GE45600 Remote is great tool if you are have a pairing issue to a Hub, this will force reset the device to its factory settings; by far, the remote is the most useful reset tool available.
-It seems like some manufactures may test a device at the factory and then forget to reset or unpair the device, thus the new device will block you from pairing it to a new network.
-Once a Z-Wave device is paired, it will not allow itself to be paired to another item unless you reset, but it you reset it you will have a dead device in you ST Hub/App.
-You should always remove all devices from the Hub via the App Things page prior to removing from your system, failure to do so will leave the device paired and a dead device listed on your Hub, you will then need to Force Remove the device from the ST Hub via the App and Factory reset the device per below (Note the Delete button is used below, not the Remove):
-Factory Reset a Device (Light/Switch) via a GE 45600 Remote:
-Hold Setup till Red/Green flash twice.
-Press Delete (Red Blink), Press Light (flashes green rapidly).
-Press button on actual device, reset is complete when green stops flashing.
-Now you can reinstall the device per normal setup via the ST App.
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Wow, great work on the research and writeup. I am going to save that to my HA Documentation. Thanks!
All the above worked great, until I changed a device number, so not sure if the above is attaching the remote properly as a secondary controller, I’m pretty sure it is, cause the hub is primary, there is a few more options I have to play with, they deal with transferring network data to the remote. Maybe after I changed the device id number, I should have done a network update to the remote… Above worked good to get the remote up and working fast, maybe more to it after adding or changing items on you z-wave network… Anyone?
Apparently, there is an issue with some remotes can not see device ID numbers over 32 (saw 45631 documented, but not officially on the 46500).
Thus, after adding and deleting multiple devices trying to learn, my ST Hub Z-Wave Device ID (counter in the Hub, not resetable by user) is well above 32, looks like it uses hexadecimal. I noticed I could manually change the Device ID in the system, which seemed like an easy fix, right? Not, this rendered the devices inoperable from the app, even tried rebooting hub, logging out of app, no joy, will not talk to the detached items. So I punched the original ID’s back in and that starting working just fine, so???
Is there something that must be done after changing the ID manually to make it active on the device? If I didn’t record the original ID’s, I’d have to remove and reinstall the devices, then the ID number would be even higher, so why have the option?
Thus, my issue with the GE 46500 may have been related to my setup notes above (prior posting), it seems like the device knows the ID does not match, so it does not respond. Makes sense, so how do you manually update the device with a specific ID, only assigned during the automated setup, so not option?
BTW, I read support can reset you new device network ID counter.
Well got a answer from support, not much help. We have an option to change the network device ID, but will not supoprt the normal user, because it will kill you device from the network.
Someone mentioned the 32 limit, from what I just read that is 32 devices, not limited to Network ID’s 01-032, because I have a device with an ID of 4B (hexadecimal) which is actualy = 75.
SUPPORT Q:
There is an option to change a Network Device ID, yet when I change it, the device is rendered useless? Why have the option?
SUPPORT A:
Custom device type created requires this field in many respects. But generally speaking the IDE is meant to be a development tool, not a controller for these very types of things. It’s not really meant to be an interface for adding and removing the devices. The mobile client is the true controller.
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Hi,
I’m just wondering if I clearly understand all this. Can I associate devices (light switch) both to the ST hub and the remote ?
I have the remote and paired it with the ST hub. I also have a Z-Wave metering switch which is paired and working fine with the hub.
What I understand is that I have to pair the remote with the switch too ?
Thanks.
Yes, you can. However, this remote is pretty old. There’s no guarantee it will work with your particular switch, although Z-Wave backward compatibility is pretty good.
What I understand is that I have to pair the remote with the switch too ?
Yes, sort of, although “pairing” is not the word. Basically, you add your Z-Wave device to a group or to a scene. Virtually any switch can be added to a group, since it only uses Basic command class, which is mandatory. Whether you can add your device to a scene or not, depends on whether your switch supports that capability.
I have two of these one unopened (thanks to @geko’s wisdom)! 
Thanks @geko but I’m still not sure of the way to go…
- I don’t know how to pair the switch with the ST hub and the remote at the same time
- if I find a way to do it, will ST hub see when I trigger the switch with the remote ?
- do you have a better remote to recommend ?
- what is the use of adding the remote to the ST hub if they don’t talk to each other ?
Thanks.
I cant get my remote to pair with the v2 hub at all. It worked fine on the V1 hub. I think @ethayer has had an issue with his too.
Yeah, I was able to pair the device with the new hub… SETUP + 967 to exclude and then same thing to include…
https://community.smartthings.com/t/ge-45600-z-wave-basic-handheld-remote/8462/6?u=ethayer
But the thing will no longer control anything. I tried pairing it with 3 devices that I have in my bedroom (two micro controllers and a GE wall outlet) → no dice.
These devices all worked on hub v1. I don’t really want to jump on the fact that it’s v2’s fault… but it probably is 
Related thread:
I believe the GE45600 has a bug (or a “feature”) that it won’t recognize devices with node ID greater than 32. So if you have more than 32 devices, this may be a reason. The hub is not involved when adding devices to the remote, so it should not matter whether it’s v1 or v2.
The remote is used to control Z-Wave devices, not the hub.
do you have a better remote to recommend ?
I cannot recommend anything that is not on the official “works with SmartThings” list.
if I find a way to do it, will ST hub see when I trigger the switch with the remote ?
That depends on the switch. Some switches do not send status change notifications to the controller due to Lutron patent. Typically, SmartThings polls Z-Wave switches every 30 seconds or so, so it should update eventually, but I cannot guarantee it.
that could explain it. I actually have very close to 32 devices… but as I upgraded and did not DELETE my location, the ID is probably in the 80’s, despite having a relatively small number of devices… thus rendering the remote unusable.
followup… is it possible to see the node ID for a device? I see network ID’s but these are not numeric, and are very low… 01 - 05 with some letters mixed in from time to time. I don’t see the rhyme to it.
Just as a general question - are some (most, or all) devices able to be attached to two networks (ie, the hub and the remote) at the same time ?
I don’t want an answer for a specific device, but examples are welcome 
It’s just I’m new to the zwave world and I want to be sure I understant well what is allowed and common use.
Many thanks again !