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Fibaro 2 Dimmer (212 not 211)

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(John Crighton) #47

One consideration to make depending on how reliable your connection is: custom device types are cloud based and not stored on the device. Therefore if you don’t have an internet connection you won’t be able to use ST to turn your lights on and off.

On balance, I’m going to re-instate Rajiv’s code as well.


(Marty) #48

So I’ve installed the Dimmer 2 in the light switch (2 wire system) and installed the code (the code works great by the way), however, the light never turns off. It only dims down to the lowest level and then flickers a little.

Anyone know what I’m doing wrong and how I can fix it?

With all the issues of Smartthings in the UK, am I wasting my time on this system? I see it’s potential in a few years, but it’s just nothing more than frustrating at the moment.


(John Crighton) #49

Sounds like you’re using led bulbs? The draw must exceed 50W total. What is the rating of all bulbs added together on that switch?

Good news, there is something called a dimmer bypass (by fibaro) for that very purpose. Bad news is that it’s not quite on the market for the dimmer 2 just yet.

This can be resolved by using a more power hungry bulb (just one will do). You can change this when the dimmer 2 bypass becomes available.

Two wire installs never switch off completely, as they need enough residual power to operate the module. In your case this is also enough to continue to power the lights.


(Rajiv) #50

John is right on. However I believe the requirement is 35W total. I have the same issue and the flickering turns off completely after a few minutes.


(Cuan Brown) #51

Guys - what am I missing - I got the dimmer working using the Universal code that the app picks up - I have added the new device through the graph api but I dont know how to change the device to use the new device type


#52

Is this of any help? (This is a clickable link.)

Or were you asking about specific parameter settings?


(Cuan Brown) #53

Got it - it was the obvious bit of editing the device and changing the type - thank you


(Cuan Brown) #54

Thats not true - I have the 211 and it does support 2 wire setups - the video on their site is for the 211. I have this installed currently. http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-fibaro-universal-dimmer


#55

Every lighting circuit has three wires (well, 4 counting the earth), it’s just that most European homes don’t have three distinct wires at the switchbox.

So in wall relays like the fibaro can be made to work when there are only two wires at the switchbox by essentially rewiring the circuit to break out the third wire and run it and the load through the relay.

It’s generally quite simple for an electrician, but not necessarily for a DIY project.

These pictures are from the Vesternet site and I think illustrate it very well.

So “will work if the current switchbox is set up for two wires, but requires circuit rewiring” is accurate for the 211.

( I thought “can be retrofitted into an existing two wire switch box without having to split wires and reroute” would apply to the 212, but now I’m not sure. Can someone verify?)

Existing two wire switchbox

After the circuit is rewired to accommodate the 211 relay


(John Crighton) #56

I’m fairly certain both work in the same way. The 212 does require a feed from Sx to the neutral terminal when only 2 wires are available.

I think the terminals are in different places though, so make sure you use the right instructions!


(Cuan Brown) #57

The diagram is spot on for the wiring for the 211 - As per the video on the Fibaro site and matches how I installed the 211 on my own light swithc. I ran a cable between N and O. The Neutral runs into N. As per the support video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ8oCvIPT4s . As mentioned (and appreciate I dont have the 212), the 211 supports 2 wire installs.


(Giles Houghton) #58

Hi

I’m not sure if anyone can help. I have had to wire a Dimmer 2 into the ceiling rose, as per the instructions for the Dimmer 1. This is because the 2-way switch wiring in my kitchen only has live and strappers; it doesn’t have the switched live available in the switches. There must be a buried junction box somewhere. I’m using momentary switches.

Anyway, it works fine mechanically, most of the time. However, I have these problems in the app:

  1. The app doesn’t update when I switch off at the wall
  2. What keeps happening is that when I switch off at the wall and then try to switch on from the app, the lights come on for a fraction of a second and go out again. Turning back on from the wall is fine. The inverse is true, sometimes. Switch off on the app and the wall will work once and then stop working. Same happens with custom code or letting ST default to the multi device.

Is there some weird latching because I’ve wired it into the ceiling rose (I can’t see how…) or is there something odd happening in software. It looks to me like an ‘off’ event is coming straight after the ‘on’. Here is the Live Log from trying to switch on from the app and it going out immediately:

947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: debug Parsed 'zw device: 11, command: 3202, payload: 21 32 00 00 00 00 ’ to [‘name’:‘power’, ‘value’:0, ‘unit’:‘W’, ‘isStateChange’:false, ‘displayed’:false, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light power is 0 W]
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: trace MeterReport(deltaTime: 0, meterType: 1, meterValue: [0, 0], precision: 1, previousMeterValue: [0, 0], rateType: 1, scale: 2, scale2: false, scaledMeterValue: 0.0, scaledPreviousMeterValue: 0.0, size: 2)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: trace zw device: 11, command: 3202, payload: 21 32 00 00 00 00
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: debug Parsed 'zw device: 11, command: 3202, payload: 21 32 00 00 00 00 ’ to [‘name’:‘power’, ‘value’:0, ‘unit’:‘W’, ‘isStateChange’:true, ‘displayed’:true, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light power is 0 W]
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: trace MeterReport(deltaTime: 0, meterType: 1, meterValue: [0, 0], precision: 1, previousMeterValue: [0, 0], rateType: 1, scale: 2, scale2: false, scaledMeterValue: 0.0, scaledPreviousMeterValue: 0.0, size: 2)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:05 GMT: trace zw device: 11, command: 3202, payload: 21 32 00 00 00 00
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: debug Parsed 'zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 26 03 00 ’ to [[‘name’:‘switch’, ‘value’:‘off’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light was turned off, ‘isStateChange’:false, ‘displayed’:false, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’]]
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SwitchMultilevelReport(value: 0)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SwitchMultilevelReport(value: 0)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SecurityMessageEncapsulation(commandByte: [0], commandClassIdentifier: 38, commandIdentifier: 3, reserved13: 0, secondFrame: false, sequenceCounter: 0, sequenced: false)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 26 03 00
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: debug Parsed ‘zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 20 01 00 ’ to [[‘name’:‘switch’, ‘value’:‘off’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light was turned off, ‘isStateChange’:true, ‘displayed’:true, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’], physicalgraph.device.HubMultiAction@51c3ae5e]
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace BasicSet(value: 0)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace BasicSet(value: 0)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SecurityMessageEncapsulation(commandByte: [0], commandClassIdentifier: 32, commandIdentifier: 1, reserved13: 0, secondFrame: false, sequenceCounter: 0, sequenced: false)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 20 01 00
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: debug Parsed ‘zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 26 03 04 ’ to [[‘name’:‘switch’, ‘value’:‘on’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light was turned on, ‘isStateChange’:true, ‘displayed’:true, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’], [‘name’:‘level’, ‘value’:4, ‘unit’:’%’, ‘isStateChange’:true, ‘displayed’:true, ‘linkText’:‘Dining Room Light’, ‘descriptionText’:Dining Room Light level is 4%], physicalgraph.device.HubMultiAction@5675de80]
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SwitchMultilevelReport(value: 4)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SwitchMultilevelReport(value: 4)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace SecurityMessageEncapsulation(commandByte: [4], commandClassIdentifier: 38, commandIdentifier: 3, reserved13: 0, secondFrame: false, sequenceCounter: 0, sequenced: false)
947ebac0-36ae-49f0-add2-084f314731b1 21:10:02 GMT: trace zw device: 11, command: 9881, payload: 00 26 03 04

Any help is very much appreciated. I’m totally at a loss.

Many thanks.


(Giles Houghton) #59

Sorry, I meant to say. Keep trying on the app or the switch and eventually it seems to work.


(Steve Bratt) #60

are you sure its wired up correctly? it kind of sounds like when you turn off at the switch, the dimmer is losing power completely? when you turn back on it probably flashes on boot, then you have to wait a while for boot. this would explain it not letting the hub know the light it off because it is no longer able too.

not much experience but kind of sounds like it could be it


(Dave Pugh) #61

Hi

Sorry newbie question as I’m new to ST and this is the first user device script I am trying. If I need to add parameters do I just add them as lines under the line -

zwave.configurationV1.configurationSet(parameterNumber: 35, size: 1, scaledConfigurationValue: 2), // Auto Calibration (0=No after Power On, 1=On First Power On, 2=On Each Power On)

Will that let me then configure these parameter in the app using the configure button? of am I settings these options in the script?

Just don’t want to damage anything before I install the dimmer module and cant get the simulator to work. Tried setting up a virtual device but the configure button does nothing.

Cheers


(Giles Houghton) #62

When you set those parameters in the script, the Configure button will push them all to the Dimmer. You won’t get presented with options.

It has worked really well for me and I have a number of different instances of the Dimmer script for the different configurations I need.


(Giles Houghton) #63

I’ve fixed it!

After a bit of research I found this:

http://forum.micasaverde.com/index.php?topic=15697.msg119525#msg119525

It turns out the surge you get when wired into the switched live at the rose (as opposed to ‘dead’ wires at the switch) can be enough to register a second switch command, in this case ‘off’.

I’ve wired in an RC suppressor between the neutral and switched live and it’s working perfectly.


(Dave Pugh) #64

So I set the scaledConfigurationValue: to what I want the parameter to be?


#65

I have a couple of these Dimmer 2 Fibaro modules and currently using with toggle switches does anyone know if they can be used with 2 way off retractive switches such as the below?

So that pushing up dims up and pushing down dims down, seems more intuitive to me that a simple retractvie switch


(Marty) #66

I finally gave up on using the Fibaro. I got them working on a 2 way switch, but then couldn’t find any light bulbs that would actually work with the light switch without flickering, or randomly switching off.

Returned back to Hue bulbs and motion detectors in each room to turn lights on and off.

Let’s hope Smartthings can fix their compatibility issues asap.