Does automation overrules scenes or vice-versa?

I am new to ST, just transitioned from Wink. I would like to accomplish 2 kinds of scenarios for my basement:

  1. turn on the basement lights when I am there and turn off when I leave the room (ie, ideal for when I do my laundry) - this would be a frequent action so I could set it up as “automation”

  2. when I exercise (I also have a mini-gym down there), I’d like to keep the lights off (I don’t need them), turn on a fan and hopefully a TV - this is a less frequent action therefore I’d like to set it as a scene

Would they conflict with each other? Once I activate the “gym scene” I expect that scenario 1 would be over-ruled by scenario 2.


Yes, #1 would run every time the condition was met. But you could put the fan being off as part of your condition for the automation. That way if it’s on for the gym scene it doesn’t run.

There really isn’t any “over-ruling”. Each of those would have a trigger. When the trigger happens, the automation or scene is executed.

I’ve got a similar set up in my garage. Lights are controlled by Smart Lighting SmartApp and a motion sensor, lights go off 5 minutes after motion ceases. My weight bench either isn’t in view of the sensor or lifting isn’t enough motion.

I use something similar to what @Automated_House suggested. But in my case I don’t have a fan so created a virtual switch. If there virtual switch is on the Smart Lighting automation doesn’t run. I turn the lights on and off manually.

Using Smart Lighting, I discovered that letting the motion sensor trigger the lights on meant the timer would switch them off every if my override switch was on.

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I love scenes and use a lot of them.

One thing that trips new folks up is wanting to “turn a scene off”. There’s no such thing. A scene is a collection of specific settings for specific devices. It might include switching some things on and some things off.

Scenes are triggered, not turned on. And there’s no “off”

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