Do I need a specific dimmable outlet for lights that requires dimming?


(candy) #1

Hi :slight_smile: Greetings from Singapore… Not sure if I am making sense here. I have a few overhead lights that requires dimming capability, question is whether if I need to get a specific dimming outlet?

Can I get something like this?

If not, please help to recommend some reliable dimming outlets that are affordable :slight_smile: Many thanks!


(Mark) #2

If you want to dim your lights, then yes you need a dimmer switch.

That device appears to be a switch, not a dimmer.


#3

As kittykitt has said, that switch won’t work because it is an on/off switch and not a dimmable switch. It looks like Energenie don’t do a dimmer switch so you may need to look elsewhere.

Could you provide us with some more information, please?

  • What overhead bulbs do you have? LED? Halogen? Flourescent tubes? Other?
  • Are you just wanting a dimmable wall switch to control the lights directly or are you using the Energeni hub or a SmartThings hub or similar?

And to help you further. It is a dimmable switch you need. An ‘outlet’ would be at the other end e.g. the light or a plug socket :slight_smile:


(Mark) #4

Also can you provide more details re: residential electrical wiring in Singapore?


(candy) #5

Hey @marktheknife @emiautomation Thank you for your advice!

My friend said to make things less complicated, I should just get Philips Hue hub and their bulbs for my new home.
Would that be advisable as compared to linking it with the normal bulbs + ST hub control?

I’m quite confused heh…

What overhead bulbs do you have? Still shopping around… Not sure what to get >_<
Are you just wanting a dimmable wall switch to control the lights directly or are you using the Energeni hub or a SmartThings hub or similar? Was thinking of getting a ST hub to control everything, but my friend recommended getting Philips Hue hub specifically for lighting then connect it to ST.

Also can you provide more details re: residential electrical wiring in Singapore?
-Hehh i’m not very sure, all I know about electrical is that we are using the same socket layout as UK ><


#6

Absolutely, Hue is just right for this sort of thing. It works (almost) seamlessly with ST with a few niggles and problems when trying to do complex routines but nearly every issue has been mentioned and solved on this forum, so you shouldn’t have any issues.

As far as I know, residential wiring in Singapore is the same as UK* i.e. 220/240v @ 50/60Hz. For once, when UK peeps go travelling, no adaptor is required! Win!

I think you have the same light fittings too though I couldn’t say for sure*. E14/E27/B22 etc. If that’s the case, then Hue will certainly be fine for you and should cover most of your lighting needs.

*not an electrician so please check with a local Professional


(Mark) #7

It depends on your light fixtures, for one thing. If there is a hue bulb that fits into the fixtures you plan to use, then it may be a good option for you.

One issue to keep in mind with hue or any other smart bulbs is you have to somehow prevent others from flipping the wall switch, otherwise your smart bulb will have no power and won’t function.

With all due respect, this more than anything else may be the reason why you should stick with smart bulbs rather than trying to mess with your home wiring. Electricity can be dangerous; if you don’t have a good working knowledge of residential wiring already, or the ability to educate yourself sufficiently, then you could potentially hurt yourself or others by trying to wire switches and/or fixtures yourself.

Hiring a pro is a reasonable alternative, but it’ll cost more than doing it yourself.


(Mark) #8

Also, this post does a great job explaining your options for maintaining control of a smart bulb with a wall switch.


(candy) #9

This is the most helpful community i have ever come across!

As for the light switches, getting the Hue would mean that i don’t have to worry about getting a dimming switch, instead I could get a smart switch cover :slight_smile:

As for my other switches, I am thinking of getting smart power wall sockets like this instead of the individual smart plugs :slight_smile: Pretty excited with this!


#10

The Energenie sockets require the MiHome hub to work. So just be aware you’d end up with the ST hub, Hue hub and the Energenie hub to get everything working. But you would have a rather nice setup.

Fibaro have a good range of in-wall relays that sit behind your current sockets and work directly with the ST hub with no need for another hub.

But as many have said, this requires a good working knowledge of your residential electrical wiring and using a professional is highly recommended, in fact it’s pretty much mandatory if you’re even just slightly unsure.