Devices offline/online constantly (Matter only)

I experienced similar issues with Matter-based devices over the last couple of weeks. In particular, I noticed problems especially with Matter-over-WiFi devices from Shelly (Shelly 1 Gen4), but sometimes also with smart plugs from Eve.

It seems that these devices randomly go offline - and online return after the devices have been completely restarted. Is it possible that these issues with Matter-based devices are related to the ones discussed in this thread?

Hi, @lanschi
I moved your post to another thread just in case it’s different since we’re discussing a different protocol.
However, the information required is the same, can you provide it, please?:

  1. Submit the hub logs when the Matter device goes offline and take note of the date and time, and share it with me, including your timezone (for example: October 14th at 11:47 am GMT-6).
  1. In the Advanced Users app, enter the ā€œHubsā€ section
  2. Enter the corresponding Hub and click on ā€œDump Hub logsā€
  3. Confirm the process by clicking on ā€œDump Hub logsā€ again in the pop-up.
  4. You’ll get a green box at the top confirming the Hub logs were requested.
  1. Provide the name of the device(s) that went offline
  2. Confirm the email account registered in the forum is the same one you use for SmartThings. If not, please share it with me over DM
  3. Enable support access to your account:
  1. Go to the SmartThings Web (my.smartthings.com)
  2. Log in to your Samsung Account
  3. Select Menu (ā‹®) and choose Settings
  4. Toggle on Account Data Access
  5. Select the time period and confirm - In this step, please select ā€œUntil turned offā€, once the team finishes, we’ll let you know so you can disable it again.

See more information about this access here: https://support.smartthings.com/hc/en-us/articles/36170233944852-Enabling-Account-Data-Access-for-Support

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Dear nayelyz,

thank you very much for your support.

I am ready to dump hub logs as soon as the problem happens again. Yet, from my experience, it may take quite a few days until it will happen again.

Knowing that the devices went offline during the last couple of days, would it help you to dump the hub logs already now - even though all devices are currently online (again)? Support access is already active since July.

The hub logs don’t last long, if you have few devices, they can last maybe 12 hours, but they get replaced by the logs of new events.
So, since a couple of days have passed, it’s possible they aren’t there anymore.
When you submit them, the current hub logs are uploaded to a server where the engineering team can analyze them and have a larger expiration time, that’s why we need to submit the logs after the event we’re trying to troubleshoot, to avoid losing them.

One of the suspected devices went offline again today.

I do not know the exact time, but it must have happened in the last few hours (October 16th, probably between 6:00 AM and 6:00 PM, Timezone GMT+1). The device’s name is ā€œRaffstore runterā€, and I just dumped the hub logs.

E-Mail address is the same as the one I’m registered with.

I’ve been seeing a lot of Matter devices go off-line for no apparent reason lately.

I’ve ruled out obvious things like poor connectivity, and rebooting the SmartThings hub fixes the issue every time. It’s happening with a number of devices, and not much has changed on my end.

I uploaded some hub logs, so I’m hoping someone could analyze them and see what’s happening. You can look for device id <REDACTED>-aa5b99e9fbd9

Thanks,

Chris

Hi, @ChristopherH. Welcome back to the SmartThings Community!
Please provide the info I mentioned above:

Hi @nayelyz. The data should be available, you can look for device id <REDACTED>-aa5b99e9fbd9 which went offline 10/15/2025 1:58PM PDT. Thanks!

Thank you, @ChristopherH and @lanschi for the information you provided.
I created a report for the engineering team regarding this matter. Once I hear from them, I’ll let you know.

Another information: As the devices are also connected to the Shelly Cloud, Shelly confirmed that the devices themselves are working normally.

They are sure that the problem is due to the fact that the hub does not update the alive packages (whatever that means).

Hi, @ChristopherH
The engineering team mentioned they checked your logs, and there’s no offline event registered for the mentioned device.
It seems the hub was rebooted and the devices became online after it finishes starting, so, they don’t see any offline event for the device.
Did you submit the hub logs right after the device went offline? Those logs are lost if you restart the hub.

Hi @nayelyz. The reboot is because it fixes the problem, everything comes back online after the reboot. It’s possible I didn’t send the logs prior to rebooting, in which case it sounds like the relevant logs would have been lost.

I’ll try to catch another device when it goes offline, it’s just difficult to predict and get the exact timestamp. Generally by the time I notice a device is offline, it’s because something isn’t working and I don’t know exactly when it went offline.

Is there any way to send an alert based on ā€˜Device Health’? When creating routines it lists the data types for all of the capabilities, EXCEPT for that :slight_smile:

UPDATE: I have an example of a Matter device going offline for seemingly no reason, and uploaded the hub logs. The device is <redacted>-9a0d-850afb2e1c0a and it would have gone offline somewhere between November 7th between11:00AM and 11:20AM PDT.

Thanks,

Chris

I understand, you can provide an approximate time range on when it happened.
Since the hub doesn’t have many devices, it is possible they don’t get lost after a few hours, just make sure you send them as soon as you notice the device going offline.

@nayelyz In a related concern, I’ve noticed a number of offline Matter devices, but upon closer inspection, their Network ID’s are changing. Is that even supposed to be possible? All of the devices which are offline have different network ID’s than I expect. It seems to be rampant across my devices, and pretty much none of my Matter devices are working correctly. No issues outside of the Matter network, though..

Chris

Hi @nayelyz AFAIK, what I’m seeing shouldn’t even be able to happen. If the network ID of a device changes, how would it ever be identified as the correct device by SmartThings? I have a whole bunch of devices which have network ID’s that have changed, and they all are marked ā€œofflineā€.

I don’t have a clue what to do, there are a couple of devices which are still ā€œonlineā€ and best I can tell their network ID’s have not changed, but 95% of my Matter devices are no longer working, and it seems to coincide with the Network ID’s having changed, which I’ve never seen, and like I said, I don’t think is supposed to even be possible. It defies logic.

Please let me know if there’s anything I can provide to help.

Thanks,

Chris

@nayelyz To provide some specific details if it helps, it looks like the device ID <redacted>-af58-3913f470dd30 network ID changed from <redacted>-4333C24C8AB3ADB3 to <redacted>-92801C6ED422209F.

The last update I see from the device was 11/4, and there are a handful of devices which appear to have this issue, all with the same last updated time, approx. Nov 4, 2025, 4:11 PM(PST).

Hope you can help shed some light on what’s happening. Thanks!

Chris

UPDATE: I literally just watched this happen to another device. Device ID <redacted>-9063-57f58c1a1276 went from network ID <redacted>-5B4AB9F706D74414 to <redacted>-4C155BD9A1EB36DD sometime in about the last 1 hour, and it’s now offline. The devices last update was Nov 6, 2025, 10:29 PMPST.

I also uploaded hub logs in case it’s useful.

Thanks

Chris

Hi, @ChristopherH
Thank you for the new information, I shared it with the engineering team. The changes in the Network ID is a great clue/detail.
Once I get their feedback, I’ll let you know.