Camera's, Am I Best Off Going Seperate? (UK)


(Dave) #1

Hi Everybody.

I didn’t really want to create another ’ which camera thread’ but couldn’t find a definite answer.
Ideally I really wanted to keep everything Samsung and have it running through smart things, however it does seem to limit my options.

what I want is…

A good outdoor camera, HD 1080p, Mains powered. ( I don’t want to be changing batteries every month)
A good indoor camera, again 1080p. Mains powered ( I could use the Samsung smart cam for this which is supported)

both I want to be able to live stream and really be able to record aswell, because of this I think that possibly rules ST out?
am I better off forgetting ST for camera and going for something separate?
Or is there an option that people know about and are using.

I don’t want to be spending mega money, and definatly don’t want to be paying out monthly. but if it ticks all the right boxes then £100-150 quid per camera is an amount I could live with.

Cheers


(Robin) #2

The Samsung HD Outdoor cameras are not supported (I have 3 of them). Only the indoor cameras are.

My recommendation (which I wish I was given before blowing 3x £150) is to buy bog standard Ethernet IP cameras with built in night vision… about £50 each should suffice.

You can then use the Blue Iris software package (£50 for a multi-cam licence or free for a single camera) and run on a local PC.

Motion and recording options are typically far more advanced than those built into cameras and much much better than the Samsung options.

I’m also using the camera on a laptop and another on a wall mounted tablet to add to the system.

You can pickup and display most IP camera streams in ST using the generic camera viewer app by @pstuart:

If desired, the Blue Iris software can be setup to re-broadcast at a lower bitrate to improve performance / reduce data usage.

There are two ST apps for controlling Blue Iris:

Blue Iris Fusion - allows you to change BI modes and a few other odds and ends

Blue Iris Triggers - enables you to use BI motion events to trigger ST events

I’m using the Samsung cameras with Blue Iris, just because that’s what I started with, but if I ever need to add additional cameras I’ll get non-smart ones.

With the above method you cannot use the ST recirding feature, but then not many cameras can and it’s not worth it anyway.


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(Paul) #3

I’ll second the BlueIris vote.

Quality software!


(Keith) #4

I tried the Arlo cameras first, then settled on using Blink. Only a month or so later I’m thinking I should have just went with IP cameras on a separate system. I was looking at Blue Iris but I did not know it could be tied into ST (until reading this thread).


(Dave) #5

thanks for the info guys, im going to look at them in a bit and come back to this thread.
i am the same as u Etoimos in the fact that it hard to really pin point a definate answer.

have any of the admin or very imformed users thought about creating a thread with a definative list of things that work? samsungs official list is very small, but having been looking around this forum there is alot of good quality unofficial stuff which has been made to work and with links to other thread for each item with instructions and links to software and patch downloads would be amazing!


(Dave) #6

i am not super hot on tech like this as i am all a bit new to it, but does this work so u pay your $50 dollars, get the software, and then u use a laptop as the recording harddrive?


(Robin) #7

Correct, BI records locally to your hard drive.


(Dave) #8

ah cheers for the info.

so which cameras would you recommend? ideally i need a mains powered camera, but wireless so i don’t have to try and run wire to my garage.
i’ll need a receiver aswell won’t i?


(Robin) #9

Needing it to be wireless complicates things (pushes price back up)… maybe something like this:

You don’t need a seperate receiver, goes straight to your existing wifi router. Wouldn’t reccomend more than 2 wifi cameras, you’ll over tax your wifi after that.


(Dave) #10

cheers for the message back, i have been looking at a few options, i don’t actually have an old laptop laying around to act as a hard drive aswell.
this would need to be just turned on and left in a corner somewhere?

saying that i could probably pick up an old desktop pc for hardly any money


(Robin) #11

Yeah… needs to be always on, and depending on number of cameras needs to be a fairly good PC.

Spec requirements are on the BI website.

Worth it IMHO though!!


(Paul) #12

Definitely worth it. It’s a complex product with heaps of features and it just works.

The post below changed my usage of BI.

By configuring BI to record direct to disk you save a huge amount of CPU cycles. I’ve got 7 1080p cameras running and recorded constantly and it consumes around 12% CPU.

edit: some good tips here: https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/high-cpu-useage-on-22-camera-build-system.1296/


(Robin) #13

I’m recording direct to disk with 3 HD and 2 LD Cams on an i5 but still hits 98% CPU when not on screensaver.

Maybe I need to study my settings again lol


(Wayne) #14

There’s definitely odd something going on there… I’m now on 16 cams in HD on blueiris on the i3 NUC. Averages out at around 40-50% cpu load.


(Robin) #15

It drops right down if I turn off the server part…