Trying to find a good solution for shutting off the outgoing pipe from the hot water heater (3/4").
I was looking at the WaterCop but I found mixed reviews and it might just be easier/cheaper/more reliable for a DIY one.
I found a few motorized ball valves but they have different wires: 2 wires 3 wires 5 wires
Having trouble deciding how I would control them, is anyone using a relay switch that work any of these and ST? With the two wire one, I believe I just need power to open and close so I could just connect it to a regular ST outlet and turn it on/off. But I do not want the switch to stay on and keep the valve powered due to overheating. Since it connected to a hot water pipe, I am even more worried about overheating.
Also wondering if anyone has knowledge on water safety regarding lead. We won’t be drinking the hot water but it would obviously need to be safe. Trying to decide on brass vs stainless steel valves too: Different valve but stainless steel.
Just FYI, I went with the WaterCop-Z valve to auto-shutdown our outside hose bib. The WaterCop is essentially a Fortrezz. (The two look exactly the same. I’ve got to believe the there’s an OEM behind them both. Anyway, to install the WaterCop, you just tell SmartThings it’a a Fortezz.) The SmartCop-Z is running just over $90 now.
I’m using webCoRE to recognize when the valve is turned on and turn it off an hour later. You could probably use any SmartThings automation to do the same.
It’s been working flawlessly for me.
ALTERNATIVE TO SOLENOID VALVES- Automatically cuts off power once fully open or fully closed; This reduces likelihood of overheating, making it a great alternative to solenoid valves for projects where a valve needs to be open for an extended period of time
Based on that I would think you should be OK to let it stay on.
Lead-free brass is still allowed for use in potable water lines. There’s nothing in the listing clearly stating whether these qualify though - probably easiest to contact the manufacturer to get a straight answer.
Watercop directions say cold water only so I wouldn’t recommend it for hot water. This said I have had mine installed for over a year on main cold line and haven’t had any issues. Only problem is it does lose connection with Hub if hub restarts so I have it plugged into a smart outlet and restart it every now and it keeps connected.
Thinking about just buying this one: 1" Stainless Steel Ball Valve with Full Port
My pipe is 3/4" but read some valve openings are actually smaller than the 3/4" pipe diameter.
Stainless steel is apparently safe for drinking water and it U.S. Solid has some pretty good reviews.
I looked at the Domes but seem hit or miss on being able to handle certain valve handles.
Not happy with the WaterCop reviews either, they seem to have a lot of cheap valves floating around from older stock.
I have a dome also connected to the incoming line which is a 3/4 inch ball valve. I have seven different leak sensors throughout the house and smart home monitor closes the valve if any of them detect water. Our undermount sink in the kitchen is slowly coming loose and if you spray the water against the back it will leak down into the cabinet and set off the sensor so it has closed the main water valve about 5 times now in the last couple months. I also had the handle on one of our showers snap and just spin around, not turning off the water. I open up the app and manually close the valve to turn off the water and then opened up the wall to turn off the shut off there and turned it back on. Worked as expected. And my house has 3/4 inch PEX tubing which per their website says is okay to be mounted on.
I also heard back from the company, the said they should have stock in month, hopefully July.
I’ve read mixed reviews about Dome but I would like the valve mechanism separate from the z wave device in case there is a problem.
I read a lot of good reviews from U.S. Solid and decided to go with this valve:
9V-24V AC/DC- Works effectively over entire voltage range; Will open or close valve in 3-5 seconds; Limit switch minimizes power after valve is fully open; Ideal for projects where an automatic return is necessary
2 WIRE AUTOMATIC RETURN SETUP- Simple two wire connection, valve largely de-energizes after opening; Returns to fully closed if power is removed"
So a simple z-wave relay to feed power to open and cut power to close would suffice.