Assistance with logic (presence, contact, motion, speak)

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#1

Trying to get my head wrapped around this but the ideal is…

When presence 1 or 2 shows up… then if door 1 or 2 opens… then if motion sensor goes active… speak.

Using various standalone conditions and triggers work just fine in their component parts. I can’t seem to be able to string it together. A side shoot is I’m also trying to understand under what circumstances a piston waits for the next event.

For example, if I used Followed By, does it wait indefinitely for that trigger or if something else happens like a switch is thrown does the piston reset? Same thing about the Then-If…

#2

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When presence 1 or 2 shows up… then if door 1 or 2 opens… then if motion sensor goes active… speak.
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My approach, though probably not the most efficient due to my limited experience, would be:

Basic Piston

IF motion sensor changes to active AND contact sensor changed in the last {expected time between opening door and passing sensor} AND presence changed in the last {expected time between arrival and passing sensor} THEN speak. .

#3

Hmmmm thanks for that. So thinking about it in reverse where the actual last trigger is motion…

#4

Right. Since it’s easier for us to look back and see what happened.

#5

Oh, also, you’ll have to use group conditions for your 1 or 2 conditions.

#6

So, it would look something like:

  • IF motion sensor changes to active
  • AND
  • Any of Presence1 or Presence2 changed in the last X minutes
  • AND
  • Any of Door1 or Door2 contact changed in the last X minutes
  • THEN
  • speak
#7

Now all I have to figure out is how to strip the values out to speak such as which contact, which Motion Sensor, who’s presence device…

#8

You could probably use an ELSE-IF for that. Just speculating, as it’s bed time, and I’m too sleepy to open Core:

ELSE-IF Piston

  • IF (motion AND Presence1 changed in the last X minutes) AND GROUP [Any of Door1 or Door2 contact changed in the last X minutes] THEN speak to Presence1
  • ELSE IF (motion AND Presence2 changed in the last X minutes) AND GROUP [Any of Door1 or Door2 contact changed in the last X minutes] THEN speak to Presence2

Theoretically, an OR-IF should work as well.

#9

Thanks, I think I’ll handle the “who” presence separately by running a piston that evaluates between both, one or the other is present and sets a string variable with “sir”, “ma’am” or “everyone”. I think in concept that might work – then I just reference the variable in the “speak”.

#10

Something like this maybe.
The 10 minute window for the variable is if I’m walking home and perhaps have a chat with the neighbour.
You can add a door sensor in as well.

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