Arrival Sensor plus code on smartlock

[Matycon (Matt Cohen)]

Hey Guys,

I am curious the best way to go about this. I want codes for my lock only to be available when a presence sensor is detected. I imagine something like in away mode, clear codes. When arriving, program the code to that user.

Let me know if you think its feasible to combine those options or even if I am thinking about it all wrong.

Thanks!
Matt

[DParker (Dan P Parker)]

Given the unreliability of presence sensing I’m not sure that I’d want my ability to open my door depending on it. Yeah, I usually have a key as a backup…but didn’t 2 weeks ago when, for the first time in 24 years in my current house, I walked out and locked the door behind me after leaving my keys sitting on the kitchen counter. That said…

What type of presence sensing are you using, and which smart lock do you have?

[Matycon (Matt Cohen)]

Schlage be469 and phone arrival. I wouldn’t be opposed to zigbee arrival
sensors of it made more sense.

[TN_Oldman (Don)]

I know on my Schlage lock you can disable the keypad. Maybe something like that?

I myself don’t understand the need to clear and reprogram the codes with the coming and going?
Sounds like your asking for trouble. Out with friends not carrying presence sensor, phone battery dies, now what?? Your lock is disabled you can’t get in without a key?

Why not just use a key then?

[DParker (Dan P Parker)]

@Matycon

…and phone arrival

To the best of my knowledge, that’s the most unreliable type of presence sensing with ST. Now I’m back to thinking that this is a bad idea…and I’m not even sure of a good way to accomplish it with a Schlage lock.

[Matycon (Matt Cohen)]

Actually disabling when not home sounds just right. I didn’t realize that
was an option.

[TN_Oldman (Don)]

Not sure how well it works since I have never used it. I don’t use / toggle hardly any of my locks settings / options.

Note code entry option in top right.

I use @RBoy software. Him or some of the others who developed the software for the locks is who would know best what your options are.

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

If you’re using the Enhanced Universal Z-Wave Lock DH

[RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Driver for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Keywe, Philia, Samsung

A “future proof” Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock driver This driver is enhanced to fix bugs in the stock ST ZWave Lock driver, include patches for bugs in lock firmwares and bring out additional features for Schalge, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Samsung, Delaney, August Pro, Danalock, KeyWe, Philia, Vivint, Locstar etc zwave locks (see below for a full list of models and features). This works with all ZWave locks and newer ZWave Plus locks (see below for a list of locks tested). It discovers/learns the lock features and automatically configures them. If a feature is not supported by the lock it will not show up or say Unsupported. You need SmartThings Smart Lock Guest Access (SLGA), Advanced Web UI or a SmartApp like Lock User Management (LUM), Rental Lock Automater (RLA) to program user …

You can use the disableKeypad and enableKeypad commands to disable and enable the keypad. Setup a rule in CoRE when everyone leaves to run the disable command on your command and when someone arrives the enable command and it should do what you want.

[Matycon (Matt Cohen)]

Thank you very much guys. @RBoy I am a giant fan of your work. Thanks for the community support!

[rxsamg (Sam G)]

@RBoy

If you’re using the Enhanced Universal Z-Wave Lock DH

[RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Driver for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Keywe, Philia, Samsung

You can use the disableKeypad and enableKeypad commands to disable and enable the keypad. Setup a rule in CoRE when everyone leaves to run the disable command on your command and when someone arrives the enable command and it should do what you want.

@RBoy Does the disable keypad option work with kwikset 910’s?

[dalec]

@DParker

Given the unreliability of presence sensing I’m not sure that I’d want my ability to open my door depending on it.

I totally agree! I first tried just using the presence sensing provided when you add your smartphone. Instead of controlling a lock I just had it set the Smart Home Monitoring system into ARM or DISARM mode based on the presence of three of us. What a total fail as nothing but false ARM and DISARM occurring randomly throughout the day when ST incorrectly identifies the location of the smartphones. My wife was so irritated because she was the one at home having to deal with all the nutty activity of watching TV then seeing all the lights turn off, TV shutdown, etc. Got an ear full that night.

[RBoy (www.rboyapps.com - Making SmartThings Easy!)]

No it doensn’t, check out this comparison of features between locks:

[RELEASE] Universal Enhanced Z-Wave Lock Driver for Schlage, Yale, Kwikset, IDLock, Popp, Danalock, August Pro, Keywe, Philia, Samsung

So here’s little summary of a comparison the Locks and features. Note that specific features depend on the models of the locks (e.g. Yale YRD 240 vs Keyfree or Schlage BE469 vs FE599 etc), this is just a quick reference for Z-Wave locks from these manufacturers not specific to any region but on an overall perspective based on available features across models: [image]

[rxsamg (Sam G)]

Got it. Thanks. No bueno for the kwikset.