What did Amazon do? All of these changes were 100% the responsibility of Samsung. Samsung disabled the old SmartThings Skill for Alexa, forcing all users to enable the New SmartThings skill.
Why would you punish Amazon for something that Samsung did?
Why Amazon? They have nothing to do with it.
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Most of the Aqara/Xiaomi sensors need a custom device handler rather than a generic one because they donāt adhere to the zigbee protocol very well. Iām a bit confused about why this is an issue for you though. Custom device handlers still work with the new app, can still be created, edited, shared, etc. I have many Aqara/Xioami sensors including door/window sensors, motion sensors, temp/humidity sensors, buttons, leak sensors, vibration sensors, and āmagic cubesā. Other than the magic cubes, all of them work with the new app (though some, like the buttons, have slightly more limited functionality than they did in the classic app).
That said, there are some serious issues with both SmartThings and with Aqara/Xiaomi sensors that would prevent me from recommending either of them at this time. The recent platform changes have caused me to lose control of some of my devices periodically, Iāve lost the ability to reliably trigger Alexa routines from SmartThings events, some components of the new app donāt work on Android 11, device history is completely messed up/delayed, etc. The Aqara/Xiaomi sensors donāt follow the zigbee standard, and will drop off the network if they route through an incompatible repeater, and the vast majority of zigbee repeaters are incompatible.
I was actually pleasantly surprised* - I waited again until ST forced my hand to update Alexa and did nothing in advance to prep. A notice from Alexa app appeared, and the old devices were gone in Alexa once the old integration expired. Adding the new skill added back devices, which I then had to re-do all my device entries in all the rooms. I was glad to not have to do the step of deleting all devices beforehand.
Now if I can only be confident that āAlexa, turn on the living room lightsā isnāt also turning on/off the same/similarly named devices in my vacation home, Iād be peachy happy. (Yes, I know Iāve already changed their names/disabled just being snarky sarcastic.)
*Itās amazing how low the bar is set⦠![]()
I did the same. The worst of it was setting up all my rooms again and hiding all the duplicates for other integrations (e.g. ecobee). All in an hour or so of work. Still silly, but nothing compared to the debacle of moving to the new app and the useless unreliable automations.
So, I donāt know if this is accurate or not, but our Amazon rep (we buy Smartthings hubs from them, a few 1000 a year) just notified us that the V3 hub is āend of lifeā immediately. Amazon can not get any additional inventory and canceled several hundred of our orders.
I havenāt been able to find ANY reference to this happening ANYWHERE, I also donāt necessarily trust my Amazon rep, because heās been ZERO help on finding another option (we need Z-Wave for our locksets). Has anyone else heard anything about this.
Weāre in full spin control becasue weāll need ~1000 between now and the 1st quarter 2021. We donāt want to go with Samsungās mesh solution because weāre partnered with eero.
Itās realā¦Itās happeningā¦
It does look Aeotec will simply be reselling the exact same v3 St Hub initially.
I switched to a different hub when this news came out. Itās pretty obvious that ST isnāt interested in home automation anymore.
Nope, just building a whole new API dedicated to automations.
RIP Classic App
I am reasonably happy with the new app when it loads devices. Half the time it doesnāt until a second try. Really weird. I also canāt seem to load it onto an older Android table I have - probably isnāt supported by the older Android OS. Fortunately for now my HousePanel app works on anything with a browser. The old app still works on my old Android app despite Samsungās claim it would stop today.
Please can you share any plans / the current plans to retire the V1 hub ?
Will there be a SmartThings v4 hub ?
Thanks
What is the current status? Lots of things are not working with the new hub. Will there be support for shade tree developers? This would be home uses with some technical skill but not full fledged programmers.
Where is the migration tool? I am supposed to manually reset and set up 50+ devices again, because my 100% functioning v1 hub is no longer supported? And there is no migration tool available?
there is no migration tool for the v1 hub⦠only for v2 and v3
I think weāll see movement to developers hosting the code and offering a monthly subscription. I honestly donāt see another way for an end user to access custom apps or DTHās easily.
Which is just⦠sigh.
While I think that is one possible outcome (in fact, already exists today with ActionTiles and SharpTools), I really donāt see 95+% of the community developers getting into the cloud hosting business for other SmartThings users. Thus, I see the days of the hobbyist developer sharing their code being numbered once the Groovy IDE is completely shut down. I hope I am wrongā¦
Killing an alarm panel? My email states that in 90 days, my ADT Smarthub Alarm will STOP FUNCTIONING, sensors, everything, even locally, it wonāt even continue to work locally. Over $700 invested in what they touted was a serious home security system to āprotect what matters to me.ā, and in 90 days it will be a brick. And, as a solution, they offer I buy a new Blue ADT hub from them, the very company that just promised to leave my home and family unprotected 90 days from now. Can anyone say āclass actionā? Itās certainly immoral, has to be illegal.

