Accidentally connected Hue bulb directly to ST Hub

I’ve also read that these are able to reset Hue bulbs:

If that’s correct, I can get it easily (and it is cheaper)

I tried with my controller here:

It doesn’t work.
I don’t have any idea about the difference. Do you know ?

I don’t know. Ask in the UK thread linked to above, someone there may know.

About Lutron: Why doesn’t it stay paired to ST Hub ? How long would it stay paired ?

Actually I am also looking for a remote control solution to ST Hub.
Today I tried my Livingcolors remote but it was not found by the ST hub.
(then I accidentally added my hue bulb to ST)

@JDRoberts This is what formed my answer. His comment implies that it was by accident. He never indicates that its actually working.

You can do this using the Lutron remote. The lutron remote allows them to remain connected to ST hub as well.

Here’s the device handler thread for the Lutron remote. My understanding is that it’s still “mostly working” for most people. Smartthings staff do say in that thread that they are working on an official version of the device handler for the Lutron remote, but it hasn’t been released yet.

Yeah its working near perfect for me. The only issue is when turning off the lights via the remote, when they turn on from ST they are dimmed down.

If you use your hue bulbs with smartthings, whether they are connected directly or through the hue bridge, you can use any smartthings “button controller” as a remote for them. The most popular is probably the aeon minimote, which is available on both UK and US frequencies.

You can use each button for pretty much anything smart things can do, including controlling a group of bulbs together, mixing bulbs with other types of devices like pocket sockets or fan switches, running a routine or rule, etc.

I didn’t understand the problem with Lutron remote.

I understand that it can reset my hue bulb which is connected to ST accidentally (ZHA). And then I will be able to use it with my Hue bridge again (ZLL)
Is this correct ?

Then the remote will be useless , or shall I be able to use it as a remote for ST ?
Can I use it as a button/remote device ?
What is not working (not perfectly working) ?


Curious. Why dont you want to just connect the bulbs directly to the ST hub? You essentially removing another fail point.

thanks. But if I get the Lutron remote, I would like to have use of it instead of getting another remote as you suggest.
so I’m looking for opportunities…
what can I use Lutron for ?

2 reasons:

1- I already have 2 Philips remotes (one in bedroom and one in living room) which will be useless if I connect bulbs directly.
2- As far as I know; Hue bulbs are acting as repeaters ONLY when they are connected to Hue bridge

I see. Are you sure you cant connect the hue switches to the ST hub? I could have sworn this was possible.

yes; I also thought that it would be possible.
But I couldn’t make them work.

I have a thread here for this :

When Hue bulbs are connected to the hue bridge, they repeat only for the others ZLL devices associated with that specific bridge. They essentially form their own mini network.

When Hue bulbs are connected directly to the SmartThings hub without the bridge, they switch to the ZHA profile and repeat for any other ZHA devices associated directly with the SmartThings hub.

Philips “Living Color” devices are using a different protocol and are not compatible with the Hue bridge.

so you say “get rid of the Philips bridge and have fun” :slight_smile: ?

But I need a solution to add my Philips remotes as remote controllers to the ST hub then…
any ideas ?

Also, can I use the Lutron remote as a remote controller to ST ?

I can control my Hue bulbs with the Livingcolors remote when they are connected to the Hue bridge.
I believe they use a compatible protocol.

(well, I actually paired my Livingcolors remote to my Hue bridge)

If it works for you, great. Philips says they are not intended to be compatible.

There are different generations of Livingcolors.
Gen2 and Gen3 are compatible. See here: