ZigBee extender needed for 220v. Will this one work with ST?


(Ben Flux) #1

ZCA-ZXT30 ZigBee Extender 3

http://www.in-homeautomation.com/store/card-access-products/zigbee-extender/#/product/100902


(Bobby) #2

For $120, you could get a few of Iris 3210 outlets and extend your zigbee plus zwave and use them to turn on/off devices…


(Ben Flux) #3

I’m on 240v…


(Bobby) #4

Not my fault…lol

Are there any 220 zigbee outlets that you can use, or any zigbee devices that you can plug in, for that matter…Any powered device acts as repeater…


(Ben Flux) #5

am i crazy to think something like this might work? https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Wulian-ZigBee-Repeater-Home-automation_60483546731.html?spm=a2700.7724857.0.0.EOjzYf&s=p


#6

Not easily. It’s been discussed in the past in the forums. The main thing to know is that different zigbee devices use different profiles. SmartThings uses the “zigbee home automation” profile (ZHA 1.2). Devices using other zigbee profiles May pair with the hub, but they either won’t stay connected or they won’t pass messages correctly.

The simplest way to extend The zigbee mesh is just to use a pocket socket. You didn’t say what country you are in, but the SmartThings branded smart plug will work well as a zigbee repeater, but it’s not the least expensive model available

If you’re in the US, as @SBDOBRESCU mentioned, the Lowe’s iris devices tend to be the least expensive that are easy to find. Make sure you get the second generation (in the purple boxes) – – the first generation (in the clear plastic clamshell) are not compatible with SmartThings. I think the compatible ones will also say “ZHA” on the box, although they may spell it out.


#7

ST power outlet is a good choice, why not?


(Bobby) #8

Comparing to Iris, more expensive and doesn’t repeat zwave.


#9

It’s possible, it just depends on the specific profile that they are using. They can say the words “home automation” without actually being ZHA certified. I have also found that customer service departments are very confused about this. If you ask them if they are certified for the zigbee home automation profile, if the device is intended for use in home automation systems and is just plain zigbee certified they will tell you that it is " zigbee home automation certified" even though it isn’t. So always ask to see a copy of their certification.

You are looking for two logos, not just one. The Z is for the zigbee frequency. You also want to see the home icon which is for the ZHA profile.

Or they might just have the words “ZHA 1.2”

But if it only says “zigbee” it’s probably not compatible with SmartThings.


#10

In your situation, I would suggest looking at the following thread. The poster there managed to use two XBee boards to communicate with each other and extend his zigbee network outward that way. It’s quite a technical discussion, but it does show that it’s doable. And the OP is in England, which is why, like you, he was looking for alternative repeaters. You’ll see that in his ultimate configuration he ends up with a device very like the one you mentioned in the first post, except that he’s put it together himself and it’s compatible with SmartThings. :sunglasses:


#11

These work up to 250V and acts as a ZigBee Router, extending the network:
http://smartenit.com/product/zbmlc15/
http://smartenit.com/product/zblc15/

This one goes up to 270V, but you would need a plug adapter:
http://smartenit.com/product/zbre/


(Eric Brown) #12

I’ve used ZigBee light bulbs as ZigBee extenders since they are less expensive than ZigBee outlets. As long as the bulbs have continuous power they should function just fine as a ZigBee relay.

I’m not sure about the specifics of the protocols that were mentioned earlier by @JDRoberts.


#13

Should, yes, but demonstrably don’t for some ST customers, including some who have zigbee mappings of their networks. It’s a really weird situation. Clearly the bulbs are identified as repeaters by the coordinator. But some people have some messages getting lost.

What brand and model of lightbulbs are you using?


(Eric Brown) #14

Mostly I have 60W Cree Connected bulbs around the house and in my garage for additional light when pulling in at night.

I also tried the GE Link bulbs, but those did not perform very well and will probably remove them from the system in favor of another 60W Cree bulb.


(Ben Flux) #15

@rpress, those ZBLC15 devices are ST compatible?


#16

Definitely, they are even on the official US compatibility list.

The only thing is I don’t know if they would be warranteed or supported for use outside the US. SmartenIT devices are not listed on the UK compatible list.

https://www.smartthings.com/uk/compatible-products

Zigbee is the same frequency worldwide, but different countries set different ceilings on the allowable transmission strength. The US allows for the use of “boosted” or “amplified” zigbee, which allows for a transmission strength much higher than is legal in the EU for zigbee devices. So for example not all zigbee devices which are legal for use in the US can legally be imported or used in the UK.

SmartenIT Devices are well engineered and popular with US customers, I just don’t know if they are amplified, you would have to check with the manufacturer.